The Biden Presidency

[doghouse]

Maybe she didn't. But she apparently did it enough to become the candidate of choice for the "identity voters", at least that was my impression.

Well, to be fair, she didn't become the candidate of choice for hardly any voters....

Warren was a hit with suburban white women..... and literally no one else. My wife voted for her in the primary.

 

[Grand Potentate]

So in news that should make Grand Potentate happy, Biden is filled his economic team with mostly people that get high marks from the progressive left with 3 full employment hawks, Cecilia Rouse, Heather Boushey and Jared Bernstein.

we're playing three card monty here and you're looking at the losing card. in the same breath he also nominated Neera Tanden to the OMB chair position an ex Blackrock executive and another Blackrock crony. Plus Rahm is out there floating around again. Bernstein is a good egg but he's going to get crowded out REAL quick in the new Blackrock owned presidency.

 

[doghouse]

Plus Rahm is out there floating around again.

Man, they are always gonna float it to get clicks.

 

[Grand Potentate]

Man, they are always gonna float it to get clicks.

I still would put money on him getting in

 

[doghouse]

For all those tired of the 10,347th Op Ed trying to profile some shit head Trump voter, here is a piece on who Biden voters are. Rubin is generally annoying imo, but this is accurate.

Opinion by
Jennifer Rubin
Columnist
November 30, 2020 at 10:30 a.m. EST

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Coverage that seeks to coddle, soothe and ultimately infantilize President Trump’s voters has pervaded post-election media. How could 74 million Americans vote for Trump? Why are they so alienated? Why haven’t we been listening to them?

But, instead, perhaps it is time to understand the 80 million voters who chose President-elect Joe Biden. In understanding who they are and what their motivations might be, we might wind up casting some of the most disappointed Trump voters — his “Make America Great Again” hard-liners — in a more realistic light.
Biden voters generally know we are in the middle of a deadly pandemic and anxiously await a vaccine. However, they understand social distancing and mask-wearing are by far the best ways to keep themselves and their families safe. They listen to Anthony S. Fauci and other experts and do not buy into quack cures.
Most Biden voters have opened their eyes to enduring, pervasive racism. They believe America is a good and decent country, but not faultless. They understand that we are forever in the process of making “a more perfect” nation. They understand that racism does not merely emanate from venom-spouting neo-Nazis but can be embedded in institutions that solidify and perpetuate historic injustice. There is a reason huge gaps between Blacks and Whites persist in wealth, longevity, education, policing and most every facet of American life. They understand that we do not live in a zero-sum world in which addressing these historic inequities means “taking” something from other groups.








Opinion | Trump's policies separated this mother and son. She wants Biden to help repair the damage.











Leticia and her son crossed the Rio Grande seeking asylum from danger in Guatemala. Instead, they were torn apart by a policy designed to inflict trauma. (Jeremy Raff, Catherine Rampell, Connie Chavez/The Washington Post)
On immigration, most Biden voters do not favor “open borders,” but they understand that a wall between Mexico and the United States is utterly ineffective and a colossal waste of money. They understand that we need immigrants at all levels of the economy, because they will help fund our retirement programs, start new businesses, buy homes and become entrepreneurs and innovators. They recognize there is scant evidence that immigrants displace native-born workers, and that their negative impact on wages is minimal and generally limited to those without a high school diploma.
In addition, Biden voters seem to want the benefits of a capitalistic economy, but with restraints and regulations. They understand that everything from environmental protections to child labor laws impinge on free markets, but they desire these interventions as necessary for a humane, livable society. They know government cannot make us all economically equal, but they do think government should stop increasing the gap between rich and poor. They want affordable health care, access to higher education for those who want it and wider prosperity.
More generally, most Biden voters think government is there to solve problems, not to define their identities or to extract revenge for perceived slights. They know that government is imperfect but nevertheless can make major improvements in the lives of Americans. They want competent officials, just like they want competent teachers and doctors. They know the difference between a middle-of-the-road Democrat and a “socialist.” They know Confederate flags represent the rebellion against the United States for the purpose of securing slavery. They believe in the sanctity of elections and have seen no evidence of fraud, let alone pervasive fraud in the 2020 elections. They do not want to cringe when the U.S. president speaks or tweets.
If all this seems utterly ordinary, one might now go back and understand that the hardcore MAGA crowd disagrees with or cheerfully embraces ignorance about much of this. They are anti-mask, pro-wall and climate-change deniers. They prefer unprovable conspiracy theories to fact-based arguments and allow Trump to say that the death toll is a success in fighting covid-19. They are convinced the election was stolen and that the deep state perpetrated the “Russia hoax.” They seek to express racial grievances and tribalism through government while also thinking racism is practically nonexistent. They want to go back to an era when they imagine White Christians ruled the roost and most Americans looked like them.
Bridging the gap between Biden and MAGA enthusiasts won’t be possible so long as the latter hew to myths, prejudices, conspiracies and flat-out lies. They might want to reflect on whether their anger-driven approach to politics really inures to their benefit. But in the meantime, back on Earth, 80 million Biden voters (and those Trump voters outside the MAGA cult) would like to get back to the business of solving national problems, running a responsible government and modeling American values.

 

[The Shooman]

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[doghouse]

I will never not get a chuckle out of Shooman insanity lol.

 

[The Shooman]

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[The Shooman]

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[doghouse]

I'll always be friendly with you Shooey.

I do wish you would stop mainlining propaganda like Epoch Times and use actual news, but carry on my friend.

 

[Dropbear]

White victimhood is still identity politics, fwiw.

 

[doghouse]

White victimhood is still identity politics, fwiw.

Quiet or you will get grievance signaling crowd up in here.

 

[The Shooman]

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[doghouse]

Doggy:

Epoch Times was one of the only media getting it right on these points:

1). Trump not being involved with Russia, all the mainstream media made accusations and had to back down when they were proven wrong.
2). Biden falsely being called President elect...E.T called him out.
3). Election fraud...evidence everywhere.

Check out NTD for all the latest testimonies on election fraud.
Notice how the mainstream media have gone all quiet about it, they are going to be caught out lying to the public.
This is the calm before the storm. Major exposures are going to happen.
Biden and Harris are all quiet, they know they are doomed.

In a few weeks you may say "gee, shooey was right....how did he know these things, how did Trump become President again".

I'll say: "because l watched Epoch Times, NTD, Crossroads, Zooming In and American Thought leaders". I avoided the mainstream media because they lie to the people and are in with the globalists.

Doggy, Rambo and others....wait and see.

Everything you just listed is false. You don't see that because you are living in an alternate information ecosystem. Ie., you are mainlining propaganda that is designed to prey on the emotional response you get because you want to believe.

If you want to have a legitimate conversation about US politics, without inserting any YouTube, tell us in your own words who the people are and the particular actions they are taking for both the Trump administration and the Biden administration to execute various policy positions that you are claiming. You cannot say the blanket "they" or "them", but specific people, job titles, branches of government, sector of civil service and actual actions taken beyond just "stuff".

Don't feel bad if you cannot because I doubt hardly anyone on here could either.

Serious people are laughing at the latest claims of "election fraud" btw. You do know that it is just another con for Trump, and all the money these Trump supporting rubes are donating are going into his pocket and not for the legal action? I do hope so. Its right in the disclaimer on the donation page.

 

[Sammy Ambrose]

Shooey: Relax a bit. All you need to remember to keep your act together is....

It is not the conciousness of man which determines his existence. On the contrary, it is his social existence which determines his consciousness. Beauty is truth, truth beauty. That is all you know on earth, and all you need to know.

 

[The Shooman]

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[Pimpernel Smith]

Anybody buying this Biden has broken his leg playing with his dog?

 

[Grand Potentate]

Anybody buying this Biden has broken his leg playing with his dog?

as opposed to???

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

as opposed to???

'Dunno', just asking....

 

[Sammy Ambrose]

Anybody buying this Biden has broken his leg playing with his dog?

I'd go with pretending to run 15 yards, as opposed to 10.

 

[Journeyman]

Biden is not the president elect, there is a process that must be followed before anyone gets that title. No-one will know who the president is going to be until about December 14, especially at the moment due to the controversy going on with the election counts.

The Shooman - Shooey, I really hope that you were this cautious and had the same prudent attitude when Donald Trump was elected president in 2016 and, indeed, in all elections prior to that.

 

[Journeyman]

The future of the world is at stake with this election. Our freedoms are st stake. We could easily slide into socialism and communism if Trump loses.

No.

Shooey, to be frank, I think that this shows that you don't properly grasp what socialism and communism is.

I don't dislike Biden or people into far left things; I just wish they would see the scam for what it is. This all started with the media and school system in the 50's from my understanding.

No.

Please don't buy into the ridiculous myth of "cultural Marxism" that has been pushed by conservatives for the past few decades.

Here's a hint - most Western societies are much *less* left than they were in the 1950s to the 1970s. Those were the glory years of Labour/Labor governments, where banking, telecommunications and other industries were government-owned, welfare systems were introduced, and programs such as the NHS and Medicare were rolled out.

Since the late 1970s, though, economic rationalism has largely held sway. Labour/Labor moved rightwards, towards the middle. Both "sides" of politics broadly agreed on selling off government-owned instrumentalities, freeing up the labour market and doing away with economic protection for industry.

Sure, there might be some blathering on about identity politics on the soft left. However, a lot of that is exaggerated by conservative media because - guess what - it wants to alarm people like you, Shooey.

White victimhood is still identity politics, fwiw.

Yes.

For all of the screaming from conservatives about the left and identity politics, there's an awful lot of identity politics amongst many conservatives/right-wing. It's just a different kind of identity.

 

[doghouse]

1). because it is well known that dominion voter fraud has occurred in other countries
2). high level military experts have reported voter fraud in the U.S election.

Both false.

 

[doghouse]

as opposed to???

Clearly Hugo Chavez undead ghost broke it after rigging all the voting machines

 

[doghouse]

Here's a hint - most Western societies are much *less* left than they were in the 1950s to the 1970s.

This is actually something that really flies under the radar these days. The US is significantly more conservative than it was in the 70s.

 

[The Shooman]

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[Journeyman]

In order to talk comprehensively about conservatism and left wing ideology we need to talk using 21st century context, not old thinking.

I do agree that, in order to have a discussion, we need to understand what we are talking about. If we have wildly differing definitions of what constitutes socialism and communism, then clearly we're going to have difficulty communicating effectively.

Why? Because globalisation, more open borders and deregulation and other things are all things that need to be considered in the current environment and how these things have also lead to leftist spectors infiltrating. Journeyman, you can't talk about the things you do in such a narrow context, that is outdated.

Now this is the bit that I find bizarre about some political discussions nowadays.

Globalisation, open borders, deregulation/free markets and so on are not socialist.

This is classic, conservative, economist rationalism, Shooey - the Chicago School and Milton Friedman ("Capitalism and Freedom" and "Free to Choose"), eagerly adopted by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.

However, over the past few years it's become a trope among some more conspiracy-minded, predominantly right-wing groups to say that this now commonly-accepted economic mantra is actually a Trojan horse for a nefarious, socialist One World Government or some such thing.

Why does Biden have a cast on his foot?? Isn't the answer obvious.

No, it's not obvious at all.

Well, actually, it is obvious - he cracked a bone in his foot while playing with his dog. However, I suspect that you have a different answer...

 

[Sammy Ambrose]

'Why does Biden have a cast on his foot?? Isn't the answer obvious?' asked Shooey.

Oh! You mean he was wearing RTW shoos and not custom hand-welted?

 

[Journeyman]

'Dunno', just asking....

JAQing off?

 

[Dropbear]

Now this is the bit that I find bizarre about some political discussions nowadays.

Globalisation, open borders, deregulation/free markets and so on are not socialist.

This is classic, conservative, economist rationalism, Shooey - the Chicago School and Milton Friedman ("Capitalism and Freedom" and "Free to Choose"), eagerly adopted by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.

However, over the past few years it's become a trope among some more conspiracy-minded, predominantly right-wing groups to say that this now commonly-accepted economic mantra is actually a Trojan horse for a nefarious, socialist One World Government or some such thing.

‘Globalist’ has become a far right dog whistle for ‘international Jews’ over the past few years. Often they will combine it with the triple parentheses echo: (((globalist)))

How did the term 'globalist' become an anti-Semitic slur? Blame Bannon

White Supremacists Have Used the Term as a Barely Concealed Dog-whistle for Several Years, but the Problem Comes When It’s Used in the ‘Globalist vs. Nationalist’ Economic Debate

www.haaretz.com

 

[doghouse]

‘Globalist’ has become a far right dog whistle for ‘international Jews’ over the past few years. Often they will combine it with the triple parentheses echo: (((globalist)))

How did the term 'globalist' become an anti-Semitic slur? Blame Bannon

White Supremacists Have Used the Term as a Barely Concealed Dog-whistle for Several Years, but the Problem Comes When It’s Used in the ‘Globalist vs. Nationalist’ Economic Debate

www.haaretz.com

I never realized I was Jewish

 

[güero]

Personally l am not for left or right. I am all about people being good and having a traditional structure in societies. Why? Because God gave us a structure and a blueprint on how to live. The problem is that we overthink things and introduce identity politics, and then society breaks down because the structure is broken down and people don't know how to live anymore. We are at this point now.

I completely agree and think this sums up nicely what the globalist shills (here and anywhere) don't understand.

 

[doghouse]

doghouse doghouse we shall talk another day. You may not believe me now, but no matter what, you and others will be provided with ample opportunity to look into the other side, but be warned Doghouse, it will be life changing if you start looking into that stuff. Even if you don't believe me, that's o.k too; the main thing is that l have done my job here and provided the links.

Mr House/Doggy/Doghouse = I think you are going to be in for a shock. I think the election fraud will be exposed for all to see. Bombshells will be dropped and certain men in big white booties will be exposed.

I mean, we can talk whenever. Biden is going to be President, full stop.

I gave you the opportunity to discuss your familiarity with the basic structure and staffing of the the US government, political parties and electoral mechanisms, but you have demurred. So I will just go with my assumption that you haven't the foggiest about the people and organizations you are talking about, like most people who purport to be some font of knowledge. I am always mildly amused to see this commentary though. I am genuinely curious as to the rationale that a random guy in Australia, consuming internet babble, would consider himself the holder of the One True Understanding, as opposed to me, an American, who is literally involved with the process and personally knows many of the players? It's a fascinating psychological study.

But as I said, I have always loved you as a poster. You BELIEVE your beliefs. So I never speak to you in animosity.

 

[doghouse]

I completely agree and think this sums up nicely what the globalist shills (here and anywhere) don't understand.

I think you confuse your inability to live with the greater population.

 

[güero]

Confuse with what?

e. ok I think I understand. No, that's not it

 

[doghouse]

So for anyone that wants an accurate recap of the current state of the "lawsuits"

 

[formby002]

[...]alternate information ecosystem. [...]

Ya mean...like............THE MATRIX...?

 

[doghouse]

Ya mean...like............THE MATRIX...?

 

[formby002]

Now this is the bit that I find bizarre about some political discussions nowadays.

Globalisation, open borders, deregulation/free markets and so on are not socialist.

This is classic, conservative, economist rationalism, Shooey - the Chicago School and Milton Friedman ("Capitalism and Freedom" and "Free to Choose"), eagerly adopted by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.

However, over the past few years it's become a trope among some more conspiracy-minded, predominantly right-wing groups to say that this now commonly-accepted economic mantra is actually a Trojan horse for a nefarious, socialist One World Government or some such thing.

I would disagree with you on the point of open borders, unless you're saying no borders.

 

[doghouse]

If it wasn't for the concerning threat to our democracy, these lawsuits would be the best comedy of the year. Hell, they filed another one a few weeks back in Michigan and listed only counties from Wisconsin lol. This kind of incompetence is breathtaking.