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Russell Street said:
What does government produce that you want? I want a highly non-productive government, at least federally. If the local government could patch up these roads a bit better, that would be okay.
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Production and productive are 2 different words, and things.

I don't need a government that produces shit, I want a productive government that uses resources efficiently and to the greatest good possible. A productive government might need 1/5 of the taxes it wastes, so imagine the top rate being 7.5%. If you want a highly non-productive government, then you want to throw your money away, so you must be happy with what we have, because my tax money is thrown in the trash left and right building bombs, medicare fraud, funding 3rd world puppet governments and the NSA.
 
To be honest, I actually prefer Cain's 999 tax plan. Rid off many wasteful bureaucratic agencies.

What is the though of implementing some type of civic testing to qualify those who can vote?
 
Pauly Chase said:
To be honest, I actually prefer Cain's 999 tax plan. Rid off many wasteful bureaucratic agencies.

What is the though of implementing some type of civic testing to qualify those who can vote?
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I'd rather a test for those that can run.

Honestly, these fuckers are barnacles. The original intent was for upstanding citizens to step away, serve, then return to their lives, but now we have these career pieces of shit.
 
Public servants were never intended to be life long careers. The lobbyists however changed that game. No one should be serving federal retirement age.
 
The civil service actually runs countries as the bureaucracy is stronger than the elected legislators.

BTW if anyone needed another reason to hate on Hillary, she named her campaign van Scooby. How fucking lame.
 
Thruth said:
The civil service actually runs countries as the bureaucracy is stronger than the elected legislators.

BTW if anyone needed another reason to hate on Hillary, she named her campaign van Scooby. How fucking lame.
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Not a good choice, indeed. It will soon enough become the Doo-Doo van...
 
Pauly Chase said:
What is the though of implementing some type of civic testing to qualify those who can vote?
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In this age of scholastic standardized testing, I fail to buy the line that an impartial literacy/awareness test could be done.
I mean just lowball with a three question test asking what the three branches of government are, how many states there are, and who the first President was. That should remove about half of the 30% of eligible voters that actually show.
 
Russell Street said:
In this age of scholastic standardized testing, I fail to buy the line that an impartial literacy/awareness test could be done.
I mean just lowball with a three question test asking what the three branches of government are, how many states there are, and who the first President was. That should remove about half of the 30% of eligible voters that actually show.
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I would love this except bleeding hearts will cry racist.
 
That would weed out at least 50% of the eligible voting population.

I remember taking a citizenship test in high school and half of the class got less than 50%, mind you this is a classroom full of kids from well educated upper middle class. I had to know it since I had to take the test to get naturalized.
 
Russell Street said:
Here, howzabout we use the question pool (and low passing standard) from the naturalized citizenship test?
Naturalization Self-Test 1 | USCIS
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I just took the test and managed to answer 22 of the 25 questions without looking up the answers (which were all about local US history, which is naturally not taught that much in European countries).
I think it speaks volumes of the US educational system if the locals don't pass the test while a European does. And some of the questions were plain stupid, like: "Who lived in America before the European settlers?"
Answers: Canadians and Floridians were both very tempting...
 
Took it. Dammit, 24/25. I knew Jefferson was an anti-federalist and still chose him, got that question wrong. Didn't know Madison was a Federalist.

I guarantee at least 70% of the voting population will miss this question and the cabinet question.
 
Pauly Chase said:
Took it. Dammit, 24/25. I knew Jefferson was an anti-federalist and still chose him, got that question wrong. Didn't know Madison was a Federalist.

I guarantee at least 70% of the voting population will miss this question and the cabinet question.
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I guessed right on that one but somehow thought of Betsy Ross for the Susan B. Anthony question. Same score, we both deserve our votes!
While we're at it... as a former poll worker I know that no identification is required to vote. You can't buy certain over-the-counter cold medications without ID in this state, and a cop or border patrol agent can request it for no good reason, but no identification is ever asked for to vote.
 
Russell Street said:
I guessed right on that one but somehow thought of Betsy Ross for the Susan B. Anthony question. Same score, we both deserve our votes!
While we're at it... as a former poll worker I know that no identification is required to vote. You can't buy certain over-the-counter cold medications without ID in this state, and a cop or border patrol agent can request it for no good reason, but no identification is ever asked for to vote.
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Was this the fuss over the voter ID law?
 
It stops voter fraud. The claim is that it keeps poors/minorities etc from voting but it really keeps dead people from voting.

Also, the friggin Patriot Act, I can't open a bank account without showing ID.
 
I think Hilary will go unchallenged for Dem nomination. I highly doubt anyone else from that party can challenge her in terms of popularity and media power. If I recall, Hillary just paid off all of her debt from last campaign. She must have deep pockets to run again this time.
 
Russell Street said:
It stops voter fraud. The claim is that it keeps poors/minorities etc from voting but it really keeps dead people from voting.

Also, the friggin Patriot Act, I can't open a bank account without showing ID.
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Exactly. I didn't even understand the argument. We need ID in every aspect of our lives, and yet voter ID, a right only reserved for American citizens above the age of 18, is argued is not necessary.

I really don't know what's worse, lesbo dike dem or over-zealous religious repub.
 
Russell Street Russell Street Voter fraud is a myth. Its basically a non-issue. Not saying whether I agree or disagree with needing an ID, but the claims behind the laws are mostly bullshit. They're really about race.
 
That's the thing. Where is voter fraud most rampant? Big cities. Who is in control in big cities? Who is the core constituency?
Prosecutions are almost nonexistent because... how do you prove it without requiring identification?
Furthermore, this growing use of absentee/mail-in voting is rampant with abuse. I know of a few prosecutions locally, and more anomalous suspicions pending....
 
Russell Street said:
That's the thing. Where is voter fraud most rampant? Big cities. Who is in control in big cities? Who is the core constituency?
Prosecutions are almost nonexistent because... how do you prove it without requiring identification?
Furthermore, this growing use of absentee/mail-in voting is rampant with abuse. I know of a few prosecutions locally, and more anomalous suspicions pending....
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Voter ID laws fix a fake problem by creating a real one - Vox

What is voter fraud? - 14 things you need to know about the fight over voting rights - Vox

6 questions about voter ID laws you were too embarrassed to ask - Vox
 
http://www.electionintegritywatch.com/documents/2011-Report-Voter-Fraud-Convictions.pdf
http://www.ceimn.org/files/Facts ab...nd Voter Fraud in Minnesota_with appendix.pdf
National Review
Blah. This is like claiming that there are very few murders. Haha, you're counting those bodies that were the result of manslaughter!
Let's stop ineligible voting. Proving intent is damn near impossible when you have people pretending to be confused. I have seen it myself. Person comes in, the roll proves they already sent in an absentee but they claim not to have. Sympathetic and poorly trained poll worker (also of same [ahem Democratic] party) allows them to vote in person. That's a double vote. Vote integrity has been tampered with, and a grave injustice has occurred.
I'd much prefer to force registrars to get serious and purge the rolls. The number of frustrated people that showed up every election day complaining again that their long-dead parent or child that moved away years ago was still on the rolls was a prepetual frustration and expense. But the excuse was the same - voter disenfranchisement. Mind you, if I ignore a traffic fine they don't worry about any such thing. A notice gets mailed and pretty soon my license gets revoked. But for some reason we pussyfoot around voting eligibility.'
The fact that low-information voters are almost unanimously Democrats does not make fighting voter fraud discriminatory.
 
Thruth said:
Mickey Mouse has a chequered history. Avoid
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Same with Donald I am afraid.
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