A Futile and Stupid Gesture: The History of the First Trump Presidency & Q-Anon

Monkeyface said:
Again, you're twisting the facts. NHS employing a lot of immigrants does not equal all immigrants work for NHS. Those are two entirely different statements.

Bargaining power in terms of getting better prices for meds and systems and such. Fixed costs will increase proportionally with the population, but variable costs should go down.

Brexit will make it worse because without young immigrants the average age will increase and hence healthcare costs will increase.

No, there should be regulations, but not stupid ones. First, get rid of the riduclous St Paul's sight lines. No one cares about an old church that isn't particularly special anyways. Build upwards like Manhattan or Toronto. If you care so much about the cathedral you can get a penthouse apartment and look down upon it.

Second, low cost housing should be incentivezed. Stop building super luxury apartments, start churning out massive tower blocks.

Third, calculate how much housing stock needs to be built on a yearly basis and if the private sector doesn't want to do it the government needs to step in. Raise taxes to get a small capital base, set up a new entity with a full or partial government guarantee and borrow the rest at today's record low interest rates and invest massively in real estate. Could even collateralise the debt if necessary. That entity could either own the property indefinitely like Singapore or sell off stock and unwind loans as necessary. There shouldn't be a profit expectation, break even to small losses as housing prices decrease.
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Lots of problems here, but I'll only deal with two:

I CARE about St Pauls.
...and we have tried the high-rise experiment before, and people in the main didn't like it.
 
Monkeyface said:
That was the whole point of Brexit! Significantly reduce immigration. Britain for the British.

It's also just less attractive going forward. HQs and jobs will move to continental Europe. Capital will flow towards the rest of the world.

A low GBP vs the EUR means one could earn more in the Eurozone as well. You won't have to deal with the shitty weather, shitty pollution and shitty housing situation of this shitty island either.

It'll be a slow shift, but it will happen over time.
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I doubt it. The mass exodus you think will happen simply wouldn't.

Have you spent much time in Mainland Europe? Very slim pickings of where you'd want to spend your time or life in general. I spent some time in Luxembourg and couldn't get out fast enough.

The pound was always overvalued anyway so that is no big deal. There will be an exodus but it will be very little.
 
formby said:
Lots of problems here, but I'll only deal with two:

I CARE about St Pauls.
...and we have tried the high-rise experiment before, and people in the main didn't like it.
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I agree.

Buidling these phallic buildings all over london blighting the skyline is a terrible idea. Boris had a hard-on for these monstrosities and it seems Sadiq does too somewhat.

Highrise buildings have never worked well over-all in the UK. It creates ghettoes. London is not HK, NY or Toronto.
 
QuandoDio said:
I doubt it. The mass exodus you think will happen simply wouldn't.

Have you spent much time in Mainland Europe? Very slim pickings of where you'd want to spend your time or life in general. I spent some time in Luxembourg and couldn't get out fast enough.

The pound was always overvalued anyway so that is no big deal. There will be an exodus but it will be very little.
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Nono, not a mass exodus. Just a very slow shift of capital allocation over time, the jobs will follow.

I'm hoping everyone will decide on Barcelona. More likely will be a combination of Paris, Frankfurt, Berlin, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Madrid, Milan and maybe Zürich. But really, it should be Barcelona.
 
QuandoDio said:
I agree.

Buidling these phallic buildings all over london blighting the skyline is a terrible idea. Boris had a hard-on for these monstrosities and it seems Sadiq does too somewhat.

Highrise buildings have never worked well over-all in the UK. It creates ghettoes. London is not HK, NY or Toronto.
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The British tend towards the bucolic. They are lucky, they live in a beautiful country.
 
QuandoDio said:
I agree.

Buidling these phallic buildings all over london blighting the skyline is a terrible idea. Boris had a hard-on for these monstrosities and it seems Sadiq does too somewhat.

Highrise buildings have never worked well over-all in the UK. It creates ghettoes. London is not HK, NY or Toronto.
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Either build outward like LA, or upward like the rest of the world. You don't want to build outward because of the protected green zone surrounding London (it's too far to visit anyways and it really ain't that nice, so might as well build on it), and you don't want to build up because of a skyline? What skyline? There isn't any olololol. I live in a 6 story building and can pretty much see the whole city. It's pathetic.

The UK is the worst when it comes to NIMBYism. Build up massively, free up space and move the green zone inside the city. Increase the size of the parks and make em nicer and more diverse. Reduce housing prices, reduce commutes and increase access to nature.
 
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Monkeyface said:
Either build outward like LA, or upward like the rest of the world. You don't want to build outward because of the protected green zone surrounding London (it's too far to visit anyways and it really ain't that nice, so might as well build on it), and you don't want to build up because of a skyline? What skyline? There isn't any olololol. I live in a 6 story building and can pretty much see the whole city. It's pathetic.

The UK is the worst when it comes to NIMBYism. Build up massively, free up space and move the green zone inside the city. Increase the size of the parks and make em nicer and more diverse. Reduce housing prices, reduce commutes and increase access to nature.
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If you hate Britain so much, why don't you leave?
 
London has one of the lowest residential densities of any metropolitan city in the world. About half the density of Paris, NY, Athens. A fifth of Hong Kong; a tenth of Tokyo.

However, it has employment density to rival all of the aforementioned putting intense strain on commuter services. Of course it needs places to live but i don't think towers are the answer. Besides a lot of these towers are empty -owned by foreign investors as for tax evading. Take a walk at night or during the weekend into the city, these buildings are empty contributing zilch to commercial and social life.

High-density lowrise and mansion block development across london and of course (won't happen) but regeneration of the North could be the answer.
 
QuandoDio said:
London has one of the lowest residential densities of any metropolitan city in the world. About half the density of Paris, NY, Athens. A fifth of Hong Kong; a tenth of Tokyo.

However, it has employment density to rival all of the aforementioned putting intense strain on commuter services. Of course it needs places to live but i don't think towers are the answer. Besides a lot of these towers are empty -owned by foreign investors as for tax evading. Take a walk at night or during the weekend into the city, these buildings are empty contributing zilch to commercial and social life.

High-density lowrise and mansion block development across london and of course (won't happen) but regeneration of the North could be the answer.
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That's true all over Britain. The investors buy entire floors off plan. Property as a safe haven
 
Who wants to look at the Shard? The Gherkin? The incoming Paddington Pole (though being stymied). Very ugly buildings.

The UK is also not building enough houses. Criminally so.
 
QuandoDio said:
London has one of the lowest residential densities of any metropolitan city in the world. About half the density of Paris, NY, Athens. A fifth of Hong Kong; a tenth of Tokyo.

However, it has employment density to rival all of the aforementioned putting intense strain on commuter services. Of course it needs places to live but i don't think towers are the answer. Besides a lot of these towers are empty -owned by foreign investors as for tax evading. Take a walk at night or during the weekend into the city, these buildings are empty contributing zilch to commercial and social life.

High-density lowrise and mansion block development across london and of course (won't happen) but regeneration of the North could be the answer.
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Most towers in London are commercial real estate, not residential. The few residential ones are marketed toward the very top end. One needs mid market residential towers. I've lived in one in NY and it really is quite nice. BBQs and parties on the communal rooftop, great space to meet your fellow neighbors and create a sense of community. Everyone says hello in the lifts, lots of small talk, the concierge knows your name. Maintenance is better than most of London's housing stock. Fresh paint, decent fittings, clean hallways. View wasn't too bad either. Short commute to the office, and it doesn't break the bank.

I stayed in a mid market sub 10y old tower in Canary Wharf for a few weeks (£1500pcm for a room in a flat) and the walls were cracking, the paint flaking, the pool was moldy, the hallways were gross and the concierge was rude. Someone also had a weed plantation on their balcony, so it smelled awful.
 
formby said:
Interestingly, years ago, I watched a documentary where the Russians had an eye hospital on a boat, it was run along th e lines of a production line, and it was very successful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodorov_Eye_Microsurgery_Complex
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Yes, that and other standard treatments that can be planned in advance you can do on a production line. But emergencies requiring evasive procedures is a specialized bespoke treatment that will not translate well in terms of gathering statistics to prove how efficient you are. We know very well, if left to socialist principles, you could end up in a situation where specialized treatment that is rare and non-ordinary will not be covered in the favour and chasing of mass treatments that can build-up lots of glowing statistics. The management would ensure this. For those treatments not covered, well, they can have the Liverpool Pathway to death.

formby said:
Lots of problems here, but I'll only deal with two:

I CARE about St Pauls.
...and we have tried the high-rise experiment before, and people in the main didn't like it.
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Yes, the Brits for several reasons, created monstrosities in the sky in the 60s and 70s.

QuandoDio said:
I doubt it. The mass exodus you think will happen simply wouldn't.

Have you spent much time in Mainland Europe? Very slim pickings of where you'd want to spend your time or life in general. I spent some time in Luxembourg and couldn't get out fast enough.

The pound was always overvalued anyway so that is no big deal. There will be an exodus but it will be very little.
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As you know, Luxembourg is an artificial pretend state: people are registered as living there, but they don't really.

Monkeyface said:
Nono, not a mass exodus. Just a very slow shift of capital allocation over time, the jobs will follow.

I'm hoping everyone will decide on Barcelona. More likely will be a combination of Paris, Frankfurt, Berlin, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Madrid, Milan and maybe Zürich. But really, it should be Barcelona.
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Barcelona (WTF)? Paris? Berlin? Even Amsterdam is not that great, especially if you're in one of these heritage zones where you can't put sound proofing in and can hear your neighbours conversations, television watching and sexual practices on several sides.

Good suburbs though near Amsterdam, but I am pretty sure you guys won't dig that. But never underestimate the allure and power of the well designed and placed suburb.

Monkeyface said:
Reduce housing prices, reduce commutes and increase access to nature.
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I refer you to the above: Go to the suburbs young man!

Monkeyface said:
I stayed in a mid market sub 10y old tower in Canary Wharf for a few weeks (£1500pcm for a room in a flat) and the walls were cracking, the paint flaking, the pool was moldy, the hallways were gross and the concierge was rude. Someone also had a weed plantation on their balcony, so it smelled awful.
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That is insane, GBP 1500 to rent a room in a flat is obscene. One of my old colleagues is originally a Londoner, but he told me after spending time in Canada in the late 60s where everything was modern and had central heating, when he got back to London he realised it wasn't that great, over priced and that the travel was awful on public transport or by car. He got out pretty quick to the States.
 
Lord Buckley said:
Yes, that and other standard treatments that can be planned in advance you can do on a production line. But emergencies requiring evasive procedures is a specialized bespoke treatment that will not translate well in terms of gathering statistics to prove how efficient you are. We know very well, if left to socialist principles, you could end up in a situation where specialized treatment that is rare and non-ordinary will not be covered in the favour and chasing of mass treatments that can build-up lots of glowing statistics. The management would ensure this. For those treatments not covered, well, they can have the Liverpool Pathway to death.



Yes, the Brits for several reasons, created monstrosities in the sky in the 60s and 70s.



As you know, Luxembourg is an artificial pretend state: people are registered as living there, but they don't really.



Barcelona (WTF)? Paris? Berlin? Even Amsterdam is not that great, especially if you're in one of these heritage zones where you can't put sound proofing in and can hear your neighbours conversations, television watching and sexual practices on several sides.

Good suburbs though near Amsterdam, but I am pretty sure you guys won't dig that. But never underestimate the allure and power of the well designed and placed suburb.



I refer you to the above: Go to the suburbs young man!



That is insane, GBP 1500 to rent a room in a flat is obscene. One of my old colleagues is originally a Londoner, but he told me after spending time in Canada in the late 60s where everything was modern and had central heating, when he got back to London he realised it wasn't that great, over priced and that the travel was awful on public transport or by car. He got out pretty quick to the States.
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Yeah, I agree with that sentiment. London is great fun as a tourist, not so much if you live here, unless you're seriously wealthy, and even then it probably gets tiring pretty fast. Everything is so old, and not in a good way.

In currently paying just over a 1500pcm for a 3 person flatshare in a 60 year old building that hasn't been maintained or updated since the day it was built. At least I get a decent amount of space in return. Anyways, I'm looking into getting my own studio or 1 bedroom apartment, but it's a bit of a stretch. Would need to pay about £2500pcm for something halfway decent, and I really don't like paying that to a greedy landlord who can kick you out with 2 month's notice. It's basically only possible if you live together with a girlfriend so you can split the costs.
 
Be prepared to pay similar amounts should the financial sector move to any of the continental cities Monkeyface Monkeyface mentions. Or even more, as rents are going up by the hour in Germany right now.
Though I don't think that the financial sector will leave London. Ever since Trump got elected the Brexit matter got pushed ahead enormously and has almost passed all the stages to trigger article 50 in March (except the House of Lords).
And according to the plans of the Tory government the UK and London will be the globalist's paradise.
 
Scherensammler said:
Be prepared to pay similar amounts should the financial sector move to any of the continental cities Monkeyface Monkeyface mentions. Or even more, as rents are going up by the hour in Germany right now.
Though I don't think that the financial sector will leave London. Ever since Trump got elected the Brexit matter got pushed ahead enormously and has almost passed all the stages to trigger article 50 in March (except the House of Lords).
And according to the plans of the Tory government the UK and London will be the globalist's paradise.
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Who would have better information regarding the financial sector leaving London? A tailor in Scotland or someone working in the financial sector in London?
 
Monkeyface said:
Who would have better information regarding the financial sector leaving London? A tailor in Scotland or someone working in the financial sector in London?
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I'm just saying that the government is pretty determined to stop the financial sector leaving.
Plus we've had threats from all sorts of businesses (but in particular from the financial sector) in the UK before the Brexit vote.
The London banksters leaving might actually be a good thing for the rest of the UK and the Londoners as well.
 
Monkeyface said:
Who would have better information regarding the financial sector leaving London? A tailor in Scotland or someone working in the financial sector in London?
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Given the recent performance of those in the financial sector to predict anything, a tailor in Scotland. Or perhaps another Octopus, a dowsing rod, or a Cat!

Anyway, I thought you were leaving? If so, why are you looking to spend more on a studio flat?
 
formby said:
Given the recent performance of those in the financial sector to predict anything, a tailor in Scotland. Or perhaps another Octopus, a dowsing rod, or a Cat!

Anyway, I thought you were leaving? If so, why are you looking to spend more on a studio flat?
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He is like piers morgan, nobody wants him.
 
formby said:
Given the recent performance of those in the financial sector to predict anything, a tailor in Scotland. Or perhaps another Octopus, a dowsing rod, or a Cat!

Anyway, I thought you were leaving? If so, why are you looking to spend more on a studio flat?
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As I've said before, it takes time. One can only apply for a visa on the first of April of every year. If I don't get it this year I'll have to wait a whole year.

Anyways, let's get back to Trump and the gang. I'm sure they're up to something, if not we can discuss their recent silly antics!
 
Monkeyface said:
As I've said before, it takes time. One can only apply for a visa on the first of April of every year. If I don't get it this year I'll have to wait a whole year.

Anyways, let's get back to Trump and the gang. I'm sure they're up to something, if not we can discuss their recent silly antics!
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Read today that he now supports the One-China policy.
I guess Rain Man has sent him a letter, telling him that China has nukes that can actually reach the USA (unlike the ones in North Korea) and that it's not wise to piss off China.
 
Monkeyface said:
Who would have better information regarding the financial sector leaving London? A tailor in Scotland or someone working in the financial sector in London?
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Bah, that is no longer a relevant question

Who is less likely to lie to us, an honest craftsman and true patriot or an industry insider driven by money and out of touch with what England really wants?

That's how people think these days.
 
InstaHate said:
Bah, that is no longer a relevant question

Who is less likely to lie to us, an honest craftsman and true patriot or an industry insider driven by money and out of touch with what England really wants?

That's how people think these days.
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What incentive do I have to lie?
 
Monkeyface said:
What incentive do I have to lie?
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Self-protection. Now that Trump is large and in charge he's going to make sure big business and big finance has no place in his government. You lie to hold on to the last vestiges of power you are your NWO cronies possess.

Or something like that.
 
InstaHate said:
Self-protection. Now that Trump is large and in charge he's going to make sure big business and big finance has no place in his government. You lie to hold on to the last vestiges of power you are your NWO cronies possess.

Or something like that.
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You're trolling right?
 
Alec Baldwin's Trump act fools newspaper

I'm not sure what is more depressing - a Dominican newspaper that obviously has no fact checking, nor any staff who look at social media in the past 12 months nor any semblance of editors in existence, or the fact that something said in an outrageous SNL skit can actually be contemplated as plausible with this administration.
 
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