A Futile and Stupid Gesture: The History of the First Trump Presidency & Q-Anon

InstaHate said:
We just need to keep pumping fluoride into the water until the murder rate drops.
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I have several acquaintances of the hippy dippy type who think that fluoride is the devil or some such nonsense. Very LelandJ LelandJ esq. My response is invariably, "You know who didn't have fluoride in their water? George Washington. The bitch had fucking wooden teeth."
 
Lord Buckley said:
Now then, just because I am little bit quicker than you on that front....
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doghouse said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/...t-project.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
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He sets himself up for a fall there: "They don’t see history as a gradual march toward cooperation."

And there in lies the delusion of our time. That somehow, if we break down all national barriers, borders, ethnicity and race, whilst taking on Russia and China (oh those Nietzschean rotters!) we will all be getting along in the glorious Post-Enlightnment Project. Interesting no mention of the very proto-Niezschean problem of Islamic terrorism, I would have thought that an equal threat (at least here in Europe) to that of Russia and China.

People are different, countries forged by geographical, climatical and yes, different cultures have different needs and outlooks. This is one of the failures of the EU. A desperate rose tinted spectacle view that somehow what is good for Germany is good for Greece. It's also why our missions in the Middle East, North Africa and Afghanistan fail.
 
Lord Buckley said:
He sets himself up for a fall there: "They don’t see history as a gradual march toward cooperation."

And there in lies the delusion of our time. That somehow, if we break down all national barriers, borders, ethnicity and race, whilst taking on Russia and China (oh those Nietzschean rotters!) we will all be getting along in the glorious Post-Enlightnment Project. Interesting no mention of the very proto-Niezschean problem of Islamic terrorism, I would have thought that an equal threat (at least here in Europe) to that of Russia and China.

People are different, countries forged by geographical, climatical and yes, different cultures have different needs and outlooks. This is one of the failures of the EU. A desperate rose tinted spectacle view that somehow what is good for Germany is good for Greece. It's also why our missions in the Middle East, North Africa and Afghanistan fail.
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It worked for the US, didn't it? 50 states with different people and cultures uniting under one flag.

Let's not pretend China or Russia are geographically or culturally uniform either.
 
They had a very bloody civil war as did the UK. Despite the references to Lincoln the American south was not a bunch of fanatics as the article asserts. They had a different economy to the north and sadly this was based on slavery.

This let's flood Europe, Canada and the USA with as many Middle Easterns, Afghanis and Sub-Saharan Africans as possible as this will prove how we're all the same, or the people of the third world no longer accept we have more than them and we have to give them a fair share of the West's wealth will result in us putting our heads in the crocodile's mouth before it is snapped shut. It will not usher in a golden world, how can it when those countries are having their fittest and best leave for Europe or elsewhere?
 
Monkeyface said:
It worked for the US, didn't it? 50 states with different people and cultures uniting under one flag.

Let's not pretend China or Russia are geographically or culturally uniform either.
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What makes you think that what worked for the US (let's ignore Jim Crow a remnant of the antebellum) will work elsewhere? Has Iraq taught you nothing?
 
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formby said:
What makes you think that what worked for the US (let's ignore Jim Crow a remnant of the antebellum) will work elsewhere? Has Iraq taught you nothing? Like most Americans unfortunately, you're knowledge of Europe in general, and European history, in particular, is woeful.
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Yeah, I'm as American as apple pie
 
doghouse said:
I have several acquaintances of the hippy dippy type who think that fluoride is the devil or some such nonsense. Very LelandJ LelandJ esq. My response is invariably, "You know who didn't have fluoride in their water? George Washington. The bitch had fucking wooden teeth."
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Correct!

http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/

Lugging drinking water's a real PITA, yes we absorb more through skin in showers!
 
formby said:
Yeah, Britain's relationship with France is like Florida's relationship with Arkansas. Fuck the 1000 years of history.

European nation states ARE NOT the equivalent of US states.
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Why the focus on the US? I mentioned Russia and China too. How about the Roman or Alexandrian empire? The one country per culture thing you adhere to is silly.
Also, the US is made up of both British and French states.
 
Monkeyface said:
Why the focus on the US? I mentioned Russia and China too. How about the Roman or Alexandrian empire? The one country per culture thing you adhere to is silly.
Also, the US is made up of both British and French states.
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Because in the case of Russia and China the comparison is even more wrong. In fact, my wider point is that comparisons make no sense.
 
Monkeyface said:
It worked for the US, didn't it? 50 states with different people and cultures uniting under one flag.

Let's not pretend China or Russia are geographically or culturally uniform either.
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China and Russia have both had to repeatedly resort to brutal measures to keep their country united due to those same cultural divisions. Unlike China, we can't just sterilize groups of people or limit their birth rates to keep the country in balance. Unlike Russia, we don't have a Siberia to send away any rabble rousers.

You can either have a brutal police state or a loose confederation with a weak central government. The in-between will not work in a country as large and diverse as the US.
 
John Lee Pettimore III said:
China and Russia have both had to repeatedly resort to brutal measures to keep their country united due to those same cultural divisions. Unlike China, we can't just sterilize groups of people or limit their birth rates to keep the country in balance. Unlike Russia, we don't have a Siberia to send away any rabble rousers.

You can either have a brutal police state or a loose confederation with a weak central government. The in-between will not work in a country as large and diverse as the US.
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Isn't that what Florida is for?
 
Bernie, Debbie, and Keith sat through the ovation during the honor of Navy Seal Owens, these pieces of shits need to be catapulted into space.
 
Pauly Chase said:
Bernie, Debbie, and Keith sat through the ovation during the honor of Navy Seal Owens, these pieces of shits need to be catapulted into space.
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Trump signed the order at dinner without having read it, and then refuses to take responsibility. SAD!
 
Pauly Chase said:
Bernie, Debbie, and Keith sat through the ovation during the honor of Navy Seal Owens, these pieces of shits need to be catapulted into space.
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Sure, he died in battle, I'm sure that he was brave, and he deserves to be remembered/honoured for that.

However, please let's not pretend that inviting his mother to Trump's first address of Congress was anything other than a blatantly political and manipulative tactic. I entirely understand why his mother decided to attend - if your son died young, of course you'd to have him eulogised by the US President - but she was used as a political pawn, entirely for Trump's benefit.
 
The family members don't have to come.

Even for political manipulation, I prefer the invitation to be sent to them rather than family members of thugs who get shot by the police for disobeying
 
That will be the Dutch intelligence services, as the newspapers here yesterday were boasting about all the intelligence they had on Trump and his entourage that they handed over to their US equivalents. On the basis of the reports, one can only conclude that the Dutch intelligence services as a matter of course, spy on American politicans. Likely they also were spying on Hillary & Co.

Meanwhile, in the meaningful world of work, the Australians are looking forward to Trump's business tax revolution:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...o/news-story/1d6716f331aae657745100851fda1416

It's going to be great!
 
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When does the plague of locusts arrive... ?

The tenor of some of these links you could be forgiven for thinking that the Americans had voted Beelzebub into office.

It's all getting so fucking tiresome.
 
formby said:
The tenor of some of these links you could be forgiven for thinking that the Americans had voted Beelzebub into office.
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We did.


If it's tiresome there is a quite rare and special remedy. It's called don't fucking click on the thread.
 
Lord Buckley said:
Obama's silent coup in action:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ma-used-police-state-tactics-undermine-trump/
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Fake news, anyone??? Talk about an evidence-free article.

The irony is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

Neither the President, nor the White House, can ask for anyone to be wire-tapped. That decision, as I understand it, is made by the Dept of Justice/FBI etc, who must then ask for the request to be approved by a judge.

It looks as though Trump has been busily tweeting accusations against Obama based on the Breitbart article - good to see that he gets his intelligence from Breitbart and right-wing radio commentators, instead of from public servants who work in the actual intelligence community.
 
Journeyman said:
Fake news, anyone??? Talk about an evidence-free article.

The irony is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

Neither the President, nor the White House, can ask for anyone to be wire-tapped. That decision, as I understand it, is made by the Dept of Justice/FBI etc, who must then ask for the request to be approved by a judge.

It looks as though Trump has been busily tweeting accusations against Obama based on the Breitbart article - good to see that he gets his intelligence from Breitbart and right-wing radio commentators, instead of from public servants who work in the actual intelligence community.
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Everyone with a brain noted either he wasn't wiretapped, or there was probable cause. Either way, not good for the Chimp.


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