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Edit (my point was): the Trump world view recognises this, I dig it, as do many Americans. And also Europe. We have reached a fork in the road as regards the future of humanity and dare I say, civilization.
First thing is first. This isn't the Trump world view. And probably the root of your confusion. And we have reached an inflection point in civilization, which hopefully we choose to move forward instead of retrench at best or self destruct at worst.
as real poverty is erased.
I think you've answered your own question. If we can eliminate poverty for all of humankind, then we have succeeded.
And you agree this goes for all labour: blue, white collar and the professions?
Yes.
You also add dying industries: are these industries truly dying through automation or just being shifted to the developing and third world?
They are absolutely dying. Through automation and obsolescence. If you propose bringing back buggy whip makers, wheelwrights and lamp trimmers, I would love to hear the rationale. (Seriously)
In my own experience and I have no real experience of factory work
And this is a huge problem for people weighing in on these matters. I'm not sure if I've mentioned it here or not, but I have a standing offer for anyone that wants to see a real unskilled factory up close. It is one of the most inhumane and soul less milieus the human mind can fathom. When you or anyone else goes waxing poetic about the whole working class hero nonsense you look to anything objective person to have created the modern Noble Savage avatar.
It's mostly people just trying to work and have a family, and not only is most of the working class looking for opportunity, but so is the middle and the upper. That's a basic human quality that 90% of the species possesses whether they are in Davenport, Iowa or Lashkargah. Give them something to do and they will. Give the rest a minimum income and look after their healthcare and let them smoke meth.
The old factory needs closing post haste. It has basically nothing to do with what you describe below, which is what we should be concentrating on. Not saving the fucking Carrier factory as a publicity stunt which is going to cost is dearly in the long run.
only bespoke fabrication and manufacturing to the oil & gas, power generation, marine and renewable industries which is generally executed by highly trained engineering technicians, time served apprentices, craft and tradesman i.e. the elite of the working class. Historically they have earned decent middle class wages.
But when I first went to work in a developing nation and this has been repeated in my extensive experience across the globe, is that the most modern manufacturing facilities have been found in Germany, Italy and then the developing world. The UK, France and even the Netherlands have equipment that is not as modern as what can be found in places such as Brazil, South Africa and India. The difference is, the work processes, the work ethic and efficiency is much higher and to a better quality in the western nations. You might get 3-6 workers in Brazil or India (and I have examples of much more) carrying out what one person does in the UK.
My argument is this: when you use the cheapness of labour in the developing world, which also include the cost-effectiveness of setting-up new facilities compared to the west, this may be hiding awful inefficiencies, which when equalled, will make your decision a bad one as the most highly skilled and efficient/effective work force was where you relocated your facility from.
I'm all about efficiencies, we have no quarrel there. But the work ethic and certainly the quality is not dependent on location, only the people making decisions. It reminds me of how much everyone bagged on the Japanese. Turns out their shit was way better. Oops. I think you'll find that being in far flung places allows companies to hide shit quality control and cut a lot of corners.
