A Futile and Stupid Gesture: The History of the First Trump Presidency & Q-Anon

Isn't Kucinich another fringe candidate from the yesteryears?
 
Kucinich Pins Flynn Leak on Intel Community, Warns of Another Cold War

http://thesaker.is/kucinich-pins-flynn-leak-on-intel-community-warns-of-another-cold-war/
Saw that, dont know what the fuck is wrong with the people in charge. I dont see the necessity to go to war against the russians, why dont we pick on defenseless countries the way we usually do that dont have hundreds and hundreds of nuclear missiles ready. With what Sphinter said that Russia should return Crimea to Ukraine, is safe to say that trump is gonna continue the same policy that Obama followed.
 
The anti-Flynn ‘deep state’ coup – spelling it out in the clearest way possible
thesaker.is · by The Saker
Okay, my sense is that a large number of commentators are misunderstanding the nature of what is going on. So, this time, rather than writing an analysis, I will spell it out, ‘talking points’ – style and, hopefully, do a better job about making my point. So, here we go.

  1. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN. Let me repeat that once more.THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!! Please don’t come and tell me that Flynn was wrong on Iran, on Islam or on China. I agree. But,
    ==>>THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!!<<==
  2. THIS IS ABOUT POWER. As in, who is boss? Who is number one? Who is the alpha dog? The President or the ‘deep state’? That is what this is all about – showing everybody who is in charge.
  3. FLYNN WAS A SYMBOL. He was the symbol of the entire notion of draining the Washington swamp, which is mostly the 3 letter agencies + Pentagon anyway. Flynn was the guy who dared defy the thought police and be friendly with the Russians. Flynn was the man who wanted to bring the CIA and JCS back under White House control. And Flynn was the guy with contacts with SOCOM and JSOC. Flynn had to be brought down.
  4. FLYNN WAS ALSO A CORNERSTONE. For better or for worse, it is absolutely evident that Flynn was the brain behind Trump’s entire foreign policy. On some stuff Flynn was great (Russia), on some stuff he was okay (Takfiri terrorism), on some stuff he was ridiculous (China) and on some stuff he was terrible (Iran). But that is not what matters here. Listen to Kucinich who clearly says that this is not about Trump or Flynn, but about a coup against the Presidency by the US ‘deep state’. Now that Flynn has been brought down, there is no “Trump foreign policy” left.
  5. FLYNN IS ALSO A DOMINO. Okay, this is crucial, pay attention now. Putin has often been criticized for protecting his friends even when these friends are guilty of wrongdoings. Now let me ask you a simple question: would you rather stick your neck out for Trump or for Putin? Exactly. If Trump was a loyal kind of person he could have called Pence and Flynn to the Oval Office, told Flynn to apologize and told Pence to shut up. But he did nothing of the kind. By accepting Flynn’s “resignation” Trump showed that he does not protect those who fight for him. There will definitely be a domino-effect now as everybody who matters has now understood: Trump is weak, the Neocons got him by the balls, and Trump will leave you hanging when the shit hits the fan.
  6. FLYNN’S DOWNFALL IS A MESSAGE. A message to all those who hate Trump and what Trump represents. And that message is simple: we are back in control and the party is on! Now that Trump has been humiliated and broken, now that he lost his only high-IQ and powerful ally in the White House, the Neocons are the deep state are smelling blood and they will double-down and resume their attack with increased intensity. The next highly symbolic sacrificial victim might be the much-hated Steve Bannon. The bottom line is simple: the hunt is on for anti-deep-state ‘crimethinkers’.
  7. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ABOUT TRUMP’S CHARACTER. That was the big unknown, right? Nobody really new what kind of President Trump would make. Everybody, including yours truly, enjoyed speculating about his ego, his lack of political experience, the fact that he owed nothing to anybody, that he was a deal maker, a common sense pragmatist. Well, we still don’t know what kind of President Trump will be, but I am afraid that we now know what kind of President he will NOT be: he will NOT drain the swamp, he will NOT change the subordination of US national interests to the AngloZionist Empire, he will NOT forge a historical partnership with Russia and he will NOT send the Neocons down to the basement from which they crawled out 24 years ago. Whether Trump lacks brains, spine, or balls is anyone’s guess, but it is now painfully clear that he has much more in common with Yanukovich then with Putin.
As I said, it’s over. Not because of Flynn’s views on Iran or Islam. But because Trump has caved in, he has been broken and now all that’s left is a painful 4 year long agony. That’s assuming that the Neocons don’t impeach him just to bask in their arrogance and sense of supremacy.

Frankly, my heart goes out to all those who sincerely hoped that Trump will be the man to free the US from the Neocons and restore the power of the “basket of deplorables” over the many minorities and special interests. Some will now indulge in a lot of “I told you so” but they will be wrong. To hope for the best was the right thing to do. Those who voted for Trump did the only thing in their power to prevent Hillary from occupying the White House. That was the right decision, they did the right thing, both morally and pragmatically.

But now we also need to gather our courage and accept the reality of what has taken place. Minimizing the implications of this deep state coup makes no sense whatsoever, neither morally nor pragmatically. And the reality is this:

It took the Neocons and the US deep state less than a month to overturn the results of the Presidential election.

Trump now declares that he “expects Russia to return Crimea“.

It’s over folks – welcome (back) to the war between Russia and the Empire.

The Saker

PS: one more thing. Trump himself was always, of course, the candidate of one part of the ‘US deep state’. Trump did not appear ex nihilo, and neither did Flynn. It is taking place is one faction of the deep state fighting against another faction of the deep state. The US elites have been split for a while now. But since Trump now has legal authority and those trying to color revolution him do not, I speak of the deep state vs the Presidency.
 
I'll just go ahead and leave this here.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/donald-trump-aides-russians-campaign/index.html

Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign
By Pamela Brown, Jim Sciutto and Evan Perez, CNN

Updated 12:07 AM ET, Wed February 15, 2017
High-level advisers close to then-presidential nominee Donald Trump were in constant communication during the campaign with Russians known to US intelligence, multiple current and former intelligence, law enforcement and administration officials tell CNN.

President-elect Trump and then-President Barack Obama were both briefed on details of the extensive communications between suspected Russian operatives and people associated with the Trump campaign and the Trump business, according to US officials familiar with the matter.

Both the frequency of the communications during early summer and the proximity to Trump of those involved "raised a red flag" with US intelligence and law enforcement, according to these officials. The communications were intercepted during routine intelligence collection targeting Russian officials and other Russian nationals known to US intelligence.

Among several senior Trump advisers regularly communicating with Russian nationals were then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort and then-adviser Michael Flynn.

Officials emphasized that communications between campaign staff and representatives of foreign governments are not unusual. However, these communications stood out to investigators due to the frequency and the level of the Trump advisers involved.

Investigators have not reached a judgment on the intent of those conversations.

Adding to US investigators' concerns were intercepted communications between Russian officials before and after the election discussing their belief that they had special access to Trump, two law enforcement officials tell CNN. These officials cautioned the Russians could have been exaggerating their access.

CNN has reached out to the White House and Flynn for comment. In an interview, Manafort emphatically denied that he was in contact with Russians known to US intelligence.

"That is 100% not true, at least as far as me," he said. "I cannot believe that they are including me in anything like that. I have not been involved in any of these activities."
 
I called this about a month ago, when this whole thing first dropped; I thought I did it here. Russian operatives and agents provacateurs would spin an indictment of the Trump administration as a coup by the IC, whipping the aforementioned Rascal scooter demographic into a frenzy and yammering about the Illuminati et al foisting a gummint on 'em. Except they wouldn't use a word like "foisting."
 
I called this about a month ago, when this whole thing first dropped; I thought I did it here. Russian operatives and agents provacateurs would spin an indictment of the Trump administration as a coup by the IC, whipping the aforementioned Rascal scooter demographic into a frenzy and yammering about the Illuminati et al foisting a gummint on 'em. Except they wouldn't use a word like "foisting."
so its just all a big takeover by the russians?
 
so its just all a big takeover by the russians?

That's what they can spin it as, and as added bonus you get Hillary's cold war with Russia and the IC is happy once more, whilst the elephant in the room gets ignored to the particular detriment of Europe.

From my perspective, as an outsider, The Saker appears to get one thing right: Trump has failed to back Flynn. It appears he has been ousted on a technicality and perhaps they could have rode it out with a slapped wrist?

Now the deep state smells blood and will move in for the kill. If they are successful in neutering or removing Trump, then the message they are sending will be very clear. The next in line will likely be very compliant indeed. And it is clearly a deep state coup. But behind the triumphant Twitterati, CNN news and the baubles and trinkets of championing identity and LGBT issues, the world over will now what has been lost. It seems the western democracies are in their death rattles before the technocratic order cements their position and ushers in the joyous world village.
 
Lol at postic cnn as real news, get real.

I think defining fake news would be beneficial. Up until a month ago fake news meant news that was completely made up out of thin air, with no basis in reality whatsoever. It might sound somewhat plausible, but it can be disproven quite easily by fact checking.

CNN is not fake news. CNN is biased news, but not fake news. Those two concepts are very different and blurring the lines is dangerous. One should not dismiss news with a bias different from one's own as fake news.
 
I think defining fake news would be beneficial. Up until a month ago fake news meant news that was completely made up out of thin air, with no basis in reality whatsoever. It might sound somewhat plausible, but it can be disproven quite easily by fact checking.

CNN is not fake news. CNN is biased news, but not fake news. Those two concepts are very different and blurring the lines is dangerous. One should not dismiss news with a bias different from one's own as fake news.
How about news without statin actual facts? Everything is "non official source close to a friend of trump that heard about it" try reading the one from amnesty international where they say 13000 people where killed in a syrian prison, but they only know 48 out of those 13000.
 
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How about news without statin actual facts? Everything is "non official source close to a friend of trump that heard about it" try reading the one from amnesty international where they say 13000 people where killed in a syrian prison, but they only know 48 out of those 13000.

Still not fake news. Biased, not fake.

Fake news websites (also referred to as hoax news[1][2]) deliberately publish hoaxes, propaganda, and disinformation purporting to be real news — often using social media to drive web traffic and amplify their effect.[3][4][5]Unlike news satire, fake news websites seek to mislead, rather than entertain, readers for financial, political, or other gain.
Some fake news websites use website spoofing, structured to make visitors believe they are visiting trusted sources like ABC Newsor MSNBC.[18] The New York Times defined "fake news" on the Internet as fictitious articles deliberately fabricated to deceive readers, generally with the goal of profiting through clickbait.[31] PolitiFact described fake news as fabricated content designed to fool readers and subsequently made viral through the Internet to crowds that increase its dissemination

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_website
 
I can see why no one wants you here in the USA, i bet when you "close" your deals you have no facts whatsoever, only rumors. I do forensic investigations, can you imagine me showing a report where nothing factual is stated?
 
I can see why no one wants you here in the USA, i bet when you "close" your deals you have no facts whatsoever, only rumors. I do forensic investigations, can you imagine me showing a report where nothing factual is stated?

SAD!
 
Ah you have no counter argument, sad. Glad you are not coming here.

I do, but you fail to understand the distinction between fake news and biased news, so there's no point. Also, arguments with trolls are a waste of time.
 
The left is hysterical and mentally ill.
They will fight Trump at every turn and it seems that nothing is too low for them domestically. Hell, I've watched MSM call leaders like Farage, Le Pen and other populists Russian plants. How long do they believe the average citizens to buy this line?

And, Priebus has to go.
 
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Still not fake news. Biased, not fake.

Fake news websites (also referred to as hoax news[1][2]) deliberately publish hoaxes, propaganda, and disinformation purporting to be real news — often using social media to drive web traffic and amplify their effect.[3][4][5]Unlike news satire, fake news websites seek to mislead, rather than entertain, readers for financial, political, or other gain.
Some fake news websites use website spoofing, structured to make visitors believe they are visiting trusted sources like ABC Newsor MSNBC.[18] The New York Times defined "fake news" on the Internet as fictitious articles deliberately fabricated to deceive readers, generally with the goal of profiting through clickbait.[31] PolitiFact described fake news as fabricated content designed to fool readers and subsequently made viral through the Internet to crowds that increase its dissemination

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_website

I consider the BBC News on fake news, actually fake news i.e. fake news presented as news reporting on fake news. Their position is that fake news websites are the reason for Brexit and why Donald Trump was elected. The electorate was spooked into this, besides the nefarious activities of Putin. Now they are assembling a team of experts who will do a fact check on our behalf on social media and help us with the party line, what to distrust, what opinions we should have, when we should feel enraged and such like. How very kind of them, this from an organisation that staged news footage of fake chemical attacks in Syria and is no stranger to false news and misinformation elsewhere.

I think one has to accept when the facts are distorted and opinions offered as fact or without due diligence of sources and evidence, or certain emotional responses illicited or triggered for a set political purpose then we are dealing yes with propaganda, but also something that must fall under fake news.

The left is hysterical and mentally ill.
They will fight Trump at every turn and it seems that nothing is too low for them domestically. Hell, I've watched MSM call leaders like Farage, Le Pen and other populists Russian plants. How long do they believe the average citizens to buy this line?

They don't and that's why the polls show that Trump's policies are popular with the US electorate (obviously), but also here in Europe. No one is buying that Russia is the threat of our time and that they are influencing elections everywhere through exfiltration, botnets, malware, phishing, remote access Trojans, spear phishing, spoofing, or onion routers.
 
Still not fake news. Biased, not fake.

Fake news websites (also referred to as hoax news[1][2]) deliberately publish hoaxes, propaganda, and disinformation purporting to be real news — often using social media to drive web traffic and amplify their effect.[3][4][5]Unlike news satire, fake news websites seek to mislead, rather than entertain, readers for financial, political, or other gain.
Some fake news websites use website spoofing, structured to make visitors believe they are visiting trusted sources like ABC Newsor MSNBC.[18] The New York Times defined "fake news" on the Internet as fictitious articles deliberately fabricated to deceive readers, generally with the goal of profiting through clickbait.[31] PolitiFact described fake news as fabricated content designed to fool readers and subsequently made viral through the Internet to crowds that increase its dissemination

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_website

Thanks for definition!:





Yes I know you still think this is real news. Programming works!
 
I think defining fake news would be beneficial. Up until a month ago fake news meant news that was completely made up out of thin air, with no basis in reality whatsoever. It might sound somewhat plausible, but it can be disproven quite easily by fact checking.

CNN is not fake news. CNN is biased news, but not fake news. Those two concepts are very different and blurring the lines is dangerous. One should not dismiss news with a bias different from one's own as fake news.

I have nothing substantive to add (so business as usual on that front), but a "like" wasn't enough to emphasize my agreement.

Words are powerful and people, left and right, are increasingly cavalier with their meanings.
 
More Fake news or as monkey calls it, bias news but cant even state what missile? It sounds like the klub/kaliber but no fucking idea.
Also " a missle" nato is loosing their shit for one missile? Olo if it was hundreds of the damn thing, sure but "a missile" apparently its a badass missile.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...43a33e-f316-11e6-9fb1-2d8f3fc9c0ed_story.html

This must be fake news and just people in the navy just trying to get more money because of russiam agression olololololo


http://breakingdefense.com/2017/02/62-of-f-18-hornets-unfit-to-fly-dod-hill-focus-on-readiness/
 
More Fake news or as monkey calls it, bias news but cant even state what missile? It sounds like the klub/kaliber but no fucking idea.
Also " a missle" nato is loosing their shit for one missile? Olo if it was hundreds of the damn thing, sure but "a missile" apparently its a badass missile.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...43a33e-f316-11e6-9fb1-2d8f3fc9c0ed_story.html

This must be fake news and just people in the navy just trying to get more money because of russiam agression olololololo


http://breakingdefense.com/2017/02/62-of-f-18-hornets-unfit-to-fly-dod-hill-focus-on-readiness/


Are you trolling or just an idiot?
 
Dont worry fat boy, i got you covered

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