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This one hits close to home. Literally. I'm about 20 minutes or less from this area of Boynton Beach:
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Florida Police Chief Defends Cops’ Aggressive, Violent and Life-Threatening Reaction Against Men Video Recording them 151
By Carlos Miller
Boynton Beach Police Chief Jeffrey Katz defended the aggressive reaction of his officers in a Youtube video Tuesday, claiming the men in the car were “escalating” the situation by “recording the interaction,” causing one of the officers to fear for his life when a man “reached out of his window with a black object in his hand,” which was nothing more than a camera phone trying to record the cop’s name tag after he refused to provide it.
That cop slapped the phone out of his hand, then yanked the man out of the car, throwing him facedown on the grass while another cop with his gun drawn comes charging towards the other men, threatening to shoot one of them for who knows what.
“I’ll put a round in your ass so quick,” the cop said, even though none of the men in the car were doing anything more than being assertive about their rights, even if they were doing it in a profane manner, which is protected by the First Amendment.
The video cuts off when the gun-pointing cop moves to the backseat and arrests the man with the camera, eliminating the deadly threat they were envisioning.
The incident apparently took place last year but was uploaded to Youtube last month where it remained under the radar until Tuesday when Katz began defending the officers’ behavior in the comments section, trying to justify their behavior by claiming there had been a “violent home invasion robbery” within a two-mile radius when we know they didn’t stop everybody else in that same radius.
Katz, who prides himself on being a social media whore on Twitter and Facebook, comes across arrogant and condescending in his statement (posted below in its entirety), stating that the men deserved to be attacked because they did not show enough “fear.”
When I watch this video, I don’t see a car full of young men who are behaving in a manner consistent with fear of the police.
And that’s what it really boils down to in this video. Contempt of cop.
The driver and occupants of a vehicle have far more to do with the outcome of a traffic stop than does the initiating officer. Respect begets respect. Antagonism and hostility are met with defensiveness and it escalates the officers’ stress response – this never leads to a more productive and civil engagement.
The young, black men in this video not only questioned their authority, one of men turned up the attitude after a cop ordered him to stop recording.
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2...cops-aggressive-reaction-men-video-recording/
Florida Police Chief Defends Cops’ Aggressive, Violent and Life-Threatening Reaction Against Men Video Recording them 151
By Carlos Miller
Boynton Beach Police Chief Jeffrey Katz defended the aggressive reaction of his officers in a Youtube video Tuesday, claiming the men in the car were “escalating” the situation by “recording the interaction,” causing one of the officers to fear for his life when a man “reached out of his window with a black object in his hand,” which was nothing more than a camera phone trying to record the cop’s name tag after he refused to provide it.
That cop slapped the phone out of his hand, then yanked the man out of the car, throwing him facedown on the grass while another cop with his gun drawn comes charging towards the other men, threatening to shoot one of them for who knows what.
“I’ll put a round in your ass so quick,” the cop said, even though none of the men in the car were doing anything more than being assertive about their rights, even if they were doing it in a profane manner, which is protected by the First Amendment.
The video cuts off when the gun-pointing cop moves to the backseat and arrests the man with the camera, eliminating the deadly threat they were envisioning.
The incident apparently took place last year but was uploaded to Youtube last month where it remained under the radar until Tuesday when Katz began defending the officers’ behavior in the comments section, trying to justify their behavior by claiming there had been a “violent home invasion robbery” within a two-mile radius when we know they didn’t stop everybody else in that same radius.
Katz, who prides himself on being a social media whore on Twitter and Facebook, comes across arrogant and condescending in his statement (posted below in its entirety), stating that the men deserved to be attacked because they did not show enough “fear.”
When I watch this video, I don’t see a car full of young men who are behaving in a manner consistent with fear of the police.
And that’s what it really boils down to in this video. Contempt of cop.
The driver and occupants of a vehicle have far more to do with the outcome of a traffic stop than does the initiating officer. Respect begets respect. Antagonism and hostility are met with defensiveness and it escalates the officers’ stress response – this never leads to a more productive and civil engagement.
The young, black men in this video not only questioned their authority, one of men turned up the attitude after a cop ordered him to stop recording.
No, I have rights. I’m not intimidated. I have rights.
Sir, I’m recording your ass. What the fuck you going to do?
Bitch, you’re on camera. What the fucks wrong with you. Stupid ass cracker.
That cop walks away, only for another cop to walk up to the driver’s side where the driver asked for his name and badge number. The cop provided a badge number but not a name, which is when the driver apparently tried to stick his phone out the window to record his name tag, striking fear in the cop’s heart, leaving him no choice but to yank the driver out of the car and slam him to the ground (his name was Danish, according to the man in the back seat).
Meanwhile, another cop comes rushing up with his gun drawn, also apparently in fear for his life.
Katz also said they were unable to fully investigate the incident because the men had never filed a complaint with the police department, even though we all know it’s pointless to expect the police department to investigate itself.
This is a common tactic that police use, insisting that a person who has been abused come into the department in person to make the complaint, when it’s the very same department that abused him. Even if a person does come into the station, many times they will be threatened with arrest or intimidated from filing the complaint. It’s just how the Blue Mafia operates.
Katz, according to his department’s website, has done “extensive research in destructive leadership, organizational incivility, and corporate psychopathy,” the latter which is defined in a medical report as having “a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others.”
And that sounds just about right for the Boynton Beach Police Department, who have arrested several people in the past for video recording them in public.
Here is Katz’s comment on Youtube defending his officers, a shining example of the Police PR Spin Machine in action.
Sir, I’m recording your ass. What the fuck you going to do?
Bitch, you’re on camera. What the fucks wrong with you. Stupid ass cracker.
That cop walks away, only for another cop to walk up to the driver’s side where the driver asked for his name and badge number. The cop provided a badge number but not a name, which is when the driver apparently tried to stick his phone out the window to record his name tag, striking fear in the cop’s heart, leaving him no choice but to yank the driver out of the car and slam him to the ground (his name was Danish, according to the man in the back seat).
Meanwhile, another cop comes rushing up with his gun drawn, also apparently in fear for his life.
Katz also said they were unable to fully investigate the incident because the men had never filed a complaint with the police department, even though we all know it’s pointless to expect the police department to investigate itself.
This is a common tactic that police use, insisting that a person who has been abused come into the department in person to make the complaint, when it’s the very same department that abused him. Even if a person does come into the station, many times they will be threatened with arrest or intimidated from filing the complaint. It’s just how the Blue Mafia operates.
Katz, according to his department’s website, has done “extensive research in destructive leadership, organizational incivility, and corporate psychopathy,” the latter which is defined in a medical report as having “a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others.”
And that sounds just about right for the Boynton Beach Police Department, who have arrested several people in the past for video recording them in public.
Here is Katz’s comment on Youtube defending his officers, a shining example of the Police PR Spin Machine in action.
A message from Boynton Beach Police. Chief Katz: Boynton Beach Police Chief Katz I’ve seen this video before – probably about a year ago. It continues to surface despite the fact nobody has made a complaint or provided helpful information from which we could put this incident in context or take corrective action if applicable. Despite this fact, my staff and I did an exhaustive search of our records in order to try to identify this incident, which occurred on February 4, 2013. What we learned is:
• The persons within this car were within a 2 mile perimeter officers established in response to a violent home invasion robbery in which the suspects were armed with a machete (BBPD Case number 13-5715).
• The persons within the vehicle were – as you can see on the video – less than cooperative and, in some cases antagonistic toward the officers.
• The driver reached out of his window with a black object in his hand. The sergeant immediately felt threatened by this gesture and took actions to protect himself and others on the scene.
People these days seem to like to draw strong and definitive conclusions based upon clips of video and information. That’s not how this complex world works, folks. The driver and occupants of a vehicle have far more to do with the outcome of a traffic stop than does the initiating officer. Respect begets respect. Antagonism and hostility are met with defensiveness and it escalates the officers’ stress response – this never leads to a more productive and civil engagement. When I watch this video, I don’t see a car full of young men who are behaving in a manner consistent with fear of the police. These young men are escalating this incident, being uncooperative with officers who are investigating a violent crime, and recording their interaction – presumably with the hopes of catching a “gotcha” moment on the part of our personnel.
I hate to disappoint them, but no gotcha moment exists here…which is why I suspect nobody ever came forward to make a complaint about this. Rest assured, absent a complaint we still looked into this incident and found the officers’ actions to be appropriate and justifiable given the totality of the circumstances. To those who are attempting to use this video to stoke racial tension and fear – I’d encourage you to work toward a solution and engage productive behaviors. For example:
• Report what you perceive to be police misconduct – and let us know when we are doing something right as well!
• Participate in our citizen’s police academy, and learn more about why and how we do the things we do… Ignorance is a terrible catalyst to judgment.
• Make an appointment to come chat with me about the direction of the department and offer your suggestions for improved service.
If you didn’t know the information I shared with in about the broader context and circumstances of this incident and drew a conclusion, reconsider with these facts in mind. Facts are a stubborn thing.
He’s right about one thing. Facts are a stubborn thing.
And the fact is, he never mentioned any probable cause for having pulled the men over in the first place.
Call Chief Jeffrey Katz at (561) 742-6104 to see if there is something else he hasn’t told us.
• The persons within this car were within a 2 mile perimeter officers established in response to a violent home invasion robbery in which the suspects were armed with a machete (BBPD Case number 13-5715).
• The persons within the vehicle were – as you can see on the video – less than cooperative and, in some cases antagonistic toward the officers.
• The driver reached out of his window with a black object in his hand. The sergeant immediately felt threatened by this gesture and took actions to protect himself and others on the scene.
People these days seem to like to draw strong and definitive conclusions based upon clips of video and information. That’s not how this complex world works, folks. The driver and occupants of a vehicle have far more to do with the outcome of a traffic stop than does the initiating officer. Respect begets respect. Antagonism and hostility are met with defensiveness and it escalates the officers’ stress response – this never leads to a more productive and civil engagement. When I watch this video, I don’t see a car full of young men who are behaving in a manner consistent with fear of the police. These young men are escalating this incident, being uncooperative with officers who are investigating a violent crime, and recording their interaction – presumably with the hopes of catching a “gotcha” moment on the part of our personnel.
I hate to disappoint them, but no gotcha moment exists here…which is why I suspect nobody ever came forward to make a complaint about this. Rest assured, absent a complaint we still looked into this incident and found the officers’ actions to be appropriate and justifiable given the totality of the circumstances. To those who are attempting to use this video to stoke racial tension and fear – I’d encourage you to work toward a solution and engage productive behaviors. For example:
• Report what you perceive to be police misconduct – and let us know when we are doing something right as well!
• Participate in our citizen’s police academy, and learn more about why and how we do the things we do… Ignorance is a terrible catalyst to judgment.
• Make an appointment to come chat with me about the direction of the department and offer your suggestions for improved service.
If you didn’t know the information I shared with in about the broader context and circumstances of this incident and drew a conclusion, reconsider with these facts in mind. Facts are a stubborn thing.
He’s right about one thing. Facts are a stubborn thing.
And the fact is, he never mentioned any probable cause for having pulled the men over in the first place.
Call Chief Jeffrey Katz at (561) 742-6104 to see if there is something else he hasn’t told us.
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Florida Man Records Himself Getting Attacked by Cop for not Rolling Down Window all the way 419
By Carlos Miller
A horrifying video has emerged showing St. Petersburg police forcing a man out of his car before pouncing on him, leaving him hospitalized with several injuries, all because the cop claimed he was in fear for his life.
At least that what he says in his report, where he wrote the following:
I exited my marked patrol cruiser and walked towards the vehicle and I noticed the driver staring at me with a blank stare as he continued revving the engine louder and louder. I thought by his actions the subject was going to attempt to hit me with his car.
The video, however, shows it was Curtis Shannon, a young man from Florida who was probably fearing for his life during the arrest.
It also shows that he remained professional as he tried to hand the cop his license and registration through a small opening after the cop pulled him over for what he claimed was erratic driving.
But if anything was erratic, it the was behavior of the cop, whom unfortunately, Shannon refuses to identify out of what he says is “respect.”
But the cop deserves no respect because he was downright criminal. A thug with a badge. A proud member of the Blue Mafia.
Out of respect for the officers (why I still have any is mystery) I omitted their names from the report.
However, you can call the St. Petersburg Media Relations Department at 727-893-7550 and ask for the cop’s name. Then you can follow it up with a public records request for his internal affairs summary, which I’m betting is not empty. The department explains how this can be done here.
But they probably won’t abide by the law to provide the records on this cop, so if need guidance, so perhaps Charlie Grapski, Director of the PINAC Open Records Project, can offer guidance. Email him at charliegrapski@pinac.org.
Post your experiences in the comments section please as the video will infuriate you.
The window was just over a quarter of the way down and it was December. Even in Florida, the nights get pretty cold. So I asked him, “Why did you pull me over, officer?”. A seemingly innocent question, right?
Wrong! He responded with “Because I wanted to, now step out of the vehicle!”. WHAT? This can’t be happening! I have no criminal record, my registration is current (not that he would know any of that, he refused to take my papers), and I definitely don’t have a busted tail light. So I responded ” ‘Because I want to’ isn’t a legal reason to pull someone over, let alone ask them out of a car. Can you tell me why you pulled me over?”
“This isn’t up for debate, step out of the car.” Now, he’s being very hostile, I’m still sitting there wondering why. He won’t take my papers, he wants me out of the car, and he won’t take my papers. What’s the deal?
“Sir, I don’t feel comfortable getting out of the car when I don’t even know why you’re here. Why do you need me to step out of the car? I’m not a criminal and my papers are all legal.”
“You know what? One way or another, I’m getting you out of the car. What’s the name of this complex?”
In the video, Shannon continues to defy his orders to step out, which was within his complete right to do so.
Florida Man Records Himself Getting Attacked by Cop for not Rolling Down Window all the way 419
By Carlos Miller
A horrifying video has emerged showing St. Petersburg police forcing a man out of his car before pouncing on him, leaving him hospitalized with several injuries, all because the cop claimed he was in fear for his life.
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At least that what he says in his report, where he wrote the following:
I exited my marked patrol cruiser and walked towards the vehicle and I noticed the driver staring at me with a blank stare as he continued revving the engine louder and louder. I thought by his actions the subject was going to attempt to hit me with his car.
The video, however, shows it was Curtis Shannon, a young man from Florida who was probably fearing for his life during the arrest.
It also shows that he remained professional as he tried to hand the cop his license and registration through a small opening after the cop pulled him over for what he claimed was erratic driving.
But if anything was erratic, it the was behavior of the cop, whom unfortunately, Shannon refuses to identify out of what he says is “respect.”
But the cop deserves no respect because he was downright criminal. A thug with a badge. A proud member of the Blue Mafia.
Out of respect for the officers (why I still have any is mystery) I omitted their names from the report.
However, you can call the St. Petersburg Media Relations Department at 727-893-7550 and ask for the cop’s name. Then you can follow it up with a public records request for his internal affairs summary, which I’m betting is not empty. The department explains how this can be done here.
But they probably won’t abide by the law to provide the records on this cop, so if need guidance, so perhaps Charlie Grapski, Director of the PINAC Open Records Project, can offer guidance. Email him at charliegrapski@pinac.org.
Post your experiences in the comments section please as the video will infuriate you.
The window was just over a quarter of the way down and it was December. Even in Florida, the nights get pretty cold. So I asked him, “Why did you pull me over, officer?”. A seemingly innocent question, right?
Wrong! He responded with “Because I wanted to, now step out of the vehicle!”. WHAT? This can’t be happening! I have no criminal record, my registration is current (not that he would know any of that, he refused to take my papers), and I definitely don’t have a busted tail light. So I responded ” ‘Because I want to’ isn’t a legal reason to pull someone over, let alone ask them out of a car. Can you tell me why you pulled me over?”
“This isn’t up for debate, step out of the car.” Now, he’s being very hostile, I’m still sitting there wondering why. He won’t take my papers, he wants me out of the car, and he won’t take my papers. What’s the deal?
“Sir, I don’t feel comfortable getting out of the car when I don’t even know why you’re here. Why do you need me to step out of the car? I’m not a criminal and my papers are all legal.”
“You know what? One way or another, I’m getting you out of the car. What’s the name of this complex?”
In the video, Shannon continues to defy his orders to step out, which was within his complete right to do so.
“I will not step out of this car so you can beat the hell out of me,” Shannon says at one point.
But eventually he did step out. And the cop did beat the hell out of him. And luckily, the video did survive.
The incident took place in December but Shannon just posted it online Sunday after launching a Go Fund Me campaign to raise money to “help my family recover.”
Perhaps the phone had been confiscated and he just got the phone back but that is not mentioned in his report. Perhaps police were unable to access it due to a passcode and finally just gave it back.
At this time, he has raised $60 out of a projected $5,000.
The story was first reported by South Florida Cop Block. I reposted most of his story below but click here for the entire story and to donate.
But eventually he did step out. And the cop did beat the hell out of him. And luckily, the video did survive.
The incident took place in December but Shannon just posted it online Sunday after launching a Go Fund Me campaign to raise money to “help my family recover.”
Perhaps the phone had been confiscated and he just got the phone back but that is not mentioned in his report. Perhaps police were unable to access it due to a passcode and finally just gave it back.
At this time, he has raised $60 out of a projected $5,000.
The story was first reported by South Florida Cop Block. I reposted most of his story below but click here for the entire story and to donate.
On December 26th 2013 at 9:30pm, I was driving home from work. I purchaced a pizza pie from a local pizzaria so my wife wouldn’t have to cook. She was still adjusting to the mother’s life, our only son was only 5 months old at the time. Just before I got home, a police cruiser pulled behind my car and was following me very closely. We both stopped at a red light. When it turned green, and just after I started making the last turn before I got home, lights started flashing. Being less than a half, block from home, I put my hazard lights on and slowly drove to, and backed into, my parking space. I then turned off my car, and headlights, turned on the interior lights and waited to see what the issue was.
The officer didn’t approach my car immediately (remember, I backed into my spot. His car was now in front of mine and mine was off). Instead, he called for me to get my license and registration. This struck me as odd, even if I did have my information ready, how would he get it from way over there? I told him it would be a little bit, I hadn’t needed my registration papers since I bought the car and now it was buried under many miscelaneous papers. This is when he approached my car. He asked me again for my papers, and again I told him I was looking for them. When I found them, I offered it to him, but he woudn’t take them. Instead, he asked me to roll my window all the way down. This, again, was a weird and unecessary request. The window was just over a quarter of the way down and it was December. Even in Florida, the nights get pretty cold. So I asked him, “Why did you pull me over, officer?”. A seemingly innocent question, right?
Wrong! He responded with “Because I wanted to, now step out of the vehicle!”. WHAT? This can’t be happening! I have no criminal record, my registration is current (not that he would know any of that, he refused to take my papers), and I definitely don’t have a busted tail light. So I responded ” ‘Because I want to’ isn’t a legal reason to pull someone over, let alone ask them out of a car. Can you tell me why you pulled me over?”
“This isn’t up for debate, step out of the car.” Now, he’s being very hostile, I’m still sitting there wondering why. He won’t take my papers, he wants me out of the car, and he won’t take my papers. What’s the deal?
“Sir, I don’t feel comfortable getting out of the car when I don’t even know why you’re here. Why do you need me to step out of the car? I’m not a criminal and my papers are all legal.”
“You know what? One way or another, I’m getting you out of the car. What’s the name of this complex?”
I told him and he walked around to the back of my car to check my license plates and call for back-up. Now, I’m worried, fearful, and annoyed. It was cear to me that this officer was looking for some action, and he wasn’t leaving without it. Being from a place where racial profiling is the norm and police brutality goes by unpunished, New York City, I took the few seconds I grabbed and set up my cell phone to record the rest of the situation. I’ll let the video tell the next few bits of the story. I apologize in advance for your coming neck pain.
As you can see and hear, while I tried to remain as calm, courteous, and respectful as the situation would allow, the officer only grew more and more hostile as the the encounter progressed. So much so, that I requested he physically changed places with another officer who didn’t look like he wanted to slam my head into the ground. I even tried revealing that I was a military veteran, hopefully that would calm him down a bit, we’re on the same side. That cleary wasn’t heppening, but you do hear another officer assure me that no physical harm would come to me. I took his word for it (silly me), grabbed my phone (now a camcorder) so I could continue recording from outside the car and openned the car door.
As you can hear, the aggressive officer immidiately grabbed me by the collar and tried to yank me out of the car. I asked him to let me go, I was already cooperating and that hostility was the reason I didn’t want to get out of the car in the first place. Even so, I let go of the frame of my car and accepted my fate. I was getting beat up tonight, there’s no denying that. The officer then slammed me onto the ground, making sure that my head made full contact with the curb on the way down.
He got on top of me and demanded I give him my arm (so he could handcuff me). I couldn’t. He was intentionally pinning that arm to the ground with his knee and he knew it. For almost two minutes, he would elbow me in the back of the head (elbows don’t leave bruises or bumps as easily), knee me in the ribs and kept yelling for me to give him my arm. Then it started to make sense. As the stars flashed behind my eyelids after every strike, I realized that we are between two parked cars. No one can see us. As far as anyone else can tell, I’m fighting this officer on the ground. So I just laid there and shouted as loud as I could , “YOU’RE PINNING MY ARM TO THE GROUND!! QUIT PUNCHING ME!!” He stops and you can start to hear the mumbles and murmurs of the neighbors as they start to discuss what’s happening. The officer realized that playtime is over and cuffs me. When he gets me off the ground, I could see the mischevous grins on two of the officers’ faces. The third one, the one who said I would’nt be harmed, just stood there almost in disbelief. Maybe he was new, I don’t know.
I spent the night in jail and the next day at the Veterans Hospital getting treated for the scraped and bruises from the incident, and the rash I got from the clothes I was issued.
The officer didn’t approach my car immediately (remember, I backed into my spot. His car was now in front of mine and mine was off). Instead, he called for me to get my license and registration. This struck me as odd, even if I did have my information ready, how would he get it from way over there? I told him it would be a little bit, I hadn’t needed my registration papers since I bought the car and now it was buried under many miscelaneous papers. This is when he approached my car. He asked me again for my papers, and again I told him I was looking for them. When I found them, I offered it to him, but he woudn’t take them. Instead, he asked me to roll my window all the way down. This, again, was a weird and unecessary request. The window was just over a quarter of the way down and it was December. Even in Florida, the nights get pretty cold. So I asked him, “Why did you pull me over, officer?”. A seemingly innocent question, right?
Wrong! He responded with “Because I wanted to, now step out of the vehicle!”. WHAT? This can’t be happening! I have no criminal record, my registration is current (not that he would know any of that, he refused to take my papers), and I definitely don’t have a busted tail light. So I responded ” ‘Because I want to’ isn’t a legal reason to pull someone over, let alone ask them out of a car. Can you tell me why you pulled me over?”
“This isn’t up for debate, step out of the car.” Now, he’s being very hostile, I’m still sitting there wondering why. He won’t take my papers, he wants me out of the car, and he won’t take my papers. What’s the deal?
“Sir, I don’t feel comfortable getting out of the car when I don’t even know why you’re here. Why do you need me to step out of the car? I’m not a criminal and my papers are all legal.”
“You know what? One way or another, I’m getting you out of the car. What’s the name of this complex?”
I told him and he walked around to the back of my car to check my license plates and call for back-up. Now, I’m worried, fearful, and annoyed. It was cear to me that this officer was looking for some action, and he wasn’t leaving without it. Being from a place where racial profiling is the norm and police brutality goes by unpunished, New York City, I took the few seconds I grabbed and set up my cell phone to record the rest of the situation. I’ll let the video tell the next few bits of the story. I apologize in advance for your coming neck pain.
As you can see and hear, while I tried to remain as calm, courteous, and respectful as the situation would allow, the officer only grew more and more hostile as the the encounter progressed. So much so, that I requested he physically changed places with another officer who didn’t look like he wanted to slam my head into the ground. I even tried revealing that I was a military veteran, hopefully that would calm him down a bit, we’re on the same side. That cleary wasn’t heppening, but you do hear another officer assure me that no physical harm would come to me. I took his word for it (silly me), grabbed my phone (now a camcorder) so I could continue recording from outside the car and openned the car door.
As you can hear, the aggressive officer immidiately grabbed me by the collar and tried to yank me out of the car. I asked him to let me go, I was already cooperating and that hostility was the reason I didn’t want to get out of the car in the first place. Even so, I let go of the frame of my car and accepted my fate. I was getting beat up tonight, there’s no denying that. The officer then slammed me onto the ground, making sure that my head made full contact with the curb on the way down.
He got on top of me and demanded I give him my arm (so he could handcuff me). I couldn’t. He was intentionally pinning that arm to the ground with his knee and he knew it. For almost two minutes, he would elbow me in the back of the head (elbows don’t leave bruises or bumps as easily), knee me in the ribs and kept yelling for me to give him my arm. Then it started to make sense. As the stars flashed behind my eyelids after every strike, I realized that we are between two parked cars. No one can see us. As far as anyone else can tell, I’m fighting this officer on the ground. So I just laid there and shouted as loud as I could , “YOU’RE PINNING MY ARM TO THE GROUND!! QUIT PUNCHING ME!!” He stops and you can start to hear the mumbles and murmurs of the neighbors as they start to discuss what’s happening. The officer realized that playtime is over and cuffs me. When he gets me off the ground, I could see the mischevous grins on two of the officers’ faces. The third one, the one who said I would’nt be harmed, just stood there almost in disbelief. Maybe he was new, I don’t know.
I spent the night in jail and the next day at the Veterans Hospital getting treated for the scraped and bruises from the incident, and the rash I got from the clothes I was issued.
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"I'll put a round in your ass so quick"
Curious what JL Pettimore III thinks about this vid.
Again, my personal opinion is every single interaction with the police any citizen has should be recorded. You have a camera on your phone, use it.
Curious what JL Pettimore III thinks about this vid.
Again, my personal opinion is every single interaction with the police any citizen has should be recorded. You have a camera on your phone, use it.
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This is very sad. Accosted for absolutely no reason.
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WTF? This guy actually offered educated and polite responses. It's rare, but I agreed with every thing that he said, including the racism charge.
The pigs offered no pretense whatsoever.
The pigs offered no pretense whatsoever.
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So the chick cop is just playing for time until the meathead cop comes to arrest him. He provided no other option, asked no questions. He did not commit any violent act of the chick cop would have done something other than try and ask him his name.
Were they real or pseudo-cops?
Were they real or pseudo-cops?
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Considering they were trying to arrest him, they were real.
Unfortunately, this is what people go thru every day. There is no honest protection of civil liberties, as cops basically get away with everything and anything with legal vaguarities.
I hope to god the S Court doesn't get to weigh in on the issue of filming and also requesting names and ID, because I'm sure we'd become a "papers please" country overnight.
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Lancaster PA apparently has more cameras filming the public per capita than anywhere else in the US.
Lancaster PA apparently has more cameras filming the public per capita than anywhere else in the US.
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I just wondered if these were city cops or one of the other form of cops like subway or transit or the plethora of other types of US cops. There seem to be so many flavours who are given guns and badges.
The ability to video this behaviour is important and valuable so I wouldn't be surprised if the courts do move to suppress this.
All of these various videos show that there is a huge gap in training these cops in how to assess and deal with situations. Seems like this was a minor issue yet the cops' behaviour escalated thing unnecessarily.
I guess you have to skip the steps you might use with white folks when dealing with "dangerous" African-American element of the population.
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It's pretty amazing how many different badges there are. There are city, county, state, then court cops, and public services such as metros, etc. They all operate with different rules. The hard part for me to swallow is that every single one of these is fighting for funding, has a ton of overhead to make them operate. It's just a massive sink hole of spend.
Suppressing video would be a major SC decision, but I think civil liberties would lose. Look how Miranda rights were modified as the Supreme Court says prosecutors can use a person's silence against them if it comes before he's told of his right to remain silent.
They will say filming is interfering with an investigation.
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1. Don't the Amish rather dislike being filmed?
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What? These cameras have a lifespan of what, ten years at the most? A quarter million a year won't pay for a few cops?
This is squandering of taxpayer funds on useless toys that will be hideously obsolete before the lease is up, but that bond to pay for it will be bumping up the tax bill for decades.
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Sorry but this one just does not pass the smell test.
In 2006, I was on an F train in Bk headed for the city, drinking whiskey out of an evian bottle. Yeah I know. But I was 25, young and not really making the best decisions.
Two uc cops approached my boyfriend and i and told us to get of at the next stop. We complied. We were told to sit down on a bench, there on the subway platform. When asked what i was drinking out of the bottle, i said water. It was clearly not water, i was being a smartass. Once again - 25. I don't respect or like cops (more on that later) and i've always had a really hard time being nice to people i don't respect or like.
One of the cops, who was a black man, asked me for my ID. I handed it over. I'm from Mississippi originally and so was my license at that time, and this is where things took a turn. I should also mention now that i am a white female, and while this may be my outward appearance and what i identify as on forms, it's not the whole story (is it ever?). My background is racially mixed, with a black grandparent on my father's side. My southern upbringing was racially diverse. "Different," as the church ladies would say.
The cop doing the "interview" with me at this point became pissed, then enraged. My sarcastic comment had done the priming and the MS lD was the tipping point. He first made a few comments about "what people like you do to people like me down south" and how "bitches like you" get away with everything. I replied that if he was accusing me of something other than drinking on the subway, i'd like to know what that specifically was. Here he took out his handcuffs, banged them down beside me, and got right up in my face, screaming that i only needed to give him one more reason, one more fucking reason.
At this point his partner literally pulled him out of my face and away from me, down the platform a few feet. My boyfriend sagely told me to shut the fuck up. I was issued a summons or ticket or whatever for drinking which, once the cops left, i promptly tore to pieces, threw on the tracks and never addressed. Bc seriously - fuck the police. I don't trust them. Here's why.
Two years prior i had been sexually assaulted by someone i was on a date with, and when i reported it the next day i was told by the cops at my precinct that i had no case. After all I'd been drinking and i shouldn't have put myself in that situation. What was i wearing? How much did i drink exactly? At best it would be a he said, she said and it would go nowhere. Ashamed and humiliated i accepted this. A few dozen law & order svu episodes later i realized i should have pursued it further, and so too should those police i reported it to. It was their job.
I see cops on the street, and i stare at them right in their eyes. I don't know why. What they're doing to people in this city, in the city that is my home, is fucking reprehensible. It is deeply affecting, it is frightening, and worst of all, it is out of control.
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The first comment's mention of steroid abuse is the most valuable tidbit. How often does one see little bodybuilder cops, with musculature beyond what a person with a day job should be having without pharmacological assistance? Let's just say that steroid use seems over-represented in the law enforcement community.
Even pretending that they are natural, who thinks that a vain gym rat mentality is congruent with the job at hand? It reeks of aggressiveness, brutality, egoism and inferiority complex and all that stuff.
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"no phones allowed"
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He shoved them off, but shouldn't have opened the door.
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Bitch, no phones in school. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!
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As a student, it was explained to me many times that in school I did not enjoy the civil rights guaranteed to a normal citizen on the street.
I do like to see that even somewhat dopey people have figured out what their legal rights are and how to unbendingly state them for the police. I wish I knew how they were learning this. Is this all just internet research or is other education occurring?
I do like to see that even somewhat dopey people have figured out what their legal rights are and how to unbendingly state them for the police. I wish I knew how they were learning this. Is this all just internet research or is other education occurring?
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Maybe this thread?
Was that correct about the 3 forms of ID he kept requesting?
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I'd never heard that before. He kept saying something about the Supreme Court regarding that. If only we had a lawyer to explain that...
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This one will be perfect for both JimmyRustler and
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/03/us/philadelphia-drug-bust-house-seizure/index.html?sr=reddit
Parents' house seized after son's drug bust
By Pamela Brown, CNN
(CNN) -- The rare moments Christos Sourovelis can take a break from running his own painting business, he can be found toiling away on his family's dream house in the suburbs of Philadelphia.
"I'm a working guy. I work every day, six days a week, even seven if I have to," Sourovelis says. One day this past March, without warning, the government took his house away, even though he and his wife, Markella, have never been charged with a crime or accused of any wrongdoing.
"I was so upset thinking somebody's going to take my house for nothing. That makes me crazy," Sourovelis says, shaking his head.
The nightmare began when police showed up at the house and arrested their 22-year-old son, Yianni, on drug charges -- $40 worth of heroin. Authorities say he was selling drugs out of the home. The Sourvelises say they had no knowledge of any involvement their son might have had with drugs.
A month-and-a-half later police came back -- this time to seize their house, forcing the Sourvelises and their children out on the street that day. Authorities came with the electric company in tow to turn off the power and even began locking the doors with screws, the Sourvelises say. Authorities won't comment on the exact circumstances because of pending litigation regarding the case.
Police and prosecutors came armed with a lawsuit against the house itself. It was being forfeited and transferred to the custody of the Philadelphia District Attorney. Authorities said the house was tied to illegal drugs and therefore subject to civil forfeiture.
In two years, nearly 500 families in Philadelphia had their homes or cars taken away by city officials, according to records from Pennsylvania's attorney general.
Authorities use a civil forfeiture law that allows them to seize people's property when that property is connected to the sale of illegal drugs.
CNN legal analyst and consumer attorney, Brian Kabateck, says the law is intended to protect the public. "It discourages crime and it takes the ill-gotten gains away from the bad people."
But not all people who have their property taken away are charged with a crime. Unlike criminal forfeiture, the civil law allows authorities to seize property without the owner ever being convicted or even charged.
In North Carolina property can be forfeited only if the property owner is actually convicted of a crime. This is not so in other states.
Civil liberties attorneys with the Institute for Justice, who recently filed a class action lawsuit against Philadelphia authorities for abusing the law, say, "Civil forfeiture is something that is an assault upon fundamental notions of private property ownership and due process."
But Kabateck disagrees, "It's a good law. It works. That doesn't mean that it doesn't sometimes have issues that need to be corrected. The system constantly has to change."
In Pennsylvania, the City of Brotherly Love is far and away the most aggressive in the state when it comes to people's property. Over a four-year period, Allegheny County, the second largest county in Pennsylvania, filed about 200 petitions for civil forfeiture. Philadelphia filed nearly 7,000 petitions in one year alone, according to the class action lawsuit, in which the Sourvelises are plaintiffs, along with other Philadelphia citizens.
Philadelphia officials seized more than 1,000 houses, about 3,300 vehicles and $44 million in cash, totaling $64 million in civil forfeitures over a 10-year period, according to the lawsuit.
The very authorities taking the property appear to be profiting from it, according to Pennsylvania state records. The Pennsylvania Attorney General's office says about $7 million went straight to the salaries for the Philadelphia District Attorney's office and the police department in just three years. In that same time period, records show the D.A.'s office spent no money on community-based drug and crime-fighting programs, according to the Philadelphia AG's office.
The Philadelphia District Attorney's office told CNN it seizes property only as a last resort, and added that it is limited in what it can currently say because of the pending litigation.
"In most cases the Public Nuisance Task Force doesn't pursue forfeiture because the underlying issue with the real estate is resolved when a settlement agreement is reached with the property owner in which he or she agrees to take reasonable efforts to prevent future narcotics dealing from the property."
The DA's office also says it works directly with citizens, the police, government agencies, and community groups in an effort to abate or close drug properties.
Civil forfeiture can be used on the federal or state level. Only eight states -- Maine, Maryland, Missouri, Indiana, Vermont, North Carolina, Ohio and North Dakota -- require seized funds be placed in a neutral account. Other states allow law enforcement to directly profit from the civil forfeitures or put proceeds into a special crime fighting fund.
In some states, like Pennsylvania, the burden is on the property owner to prove their innocence. The Sourvelises say they had to go to a courtroom and fight to get their home back where, instead of facing a judge, they faced a prosecutor from the DA's office.
There was no courtroom or judge, Christos Sourvelis says. "There's just one guy telling us to sign these papers. That's it."
After eight days of sleeping on a family member's couch, the Sourvelises were let back into their house, but only on the guarantee they would ban their son from the house -- a heartbreaking decision, they say. (Their son pleaded no contest to the drug charges.)
Still fighting the city to resolve their case and stay in their home permanently, Markella Sourovelis says: "To me I'm home, but I feel violated at this point. I'm doing things in my house, but I worry is it always going to be my house? Are they going to take it one day like that?"
The Philadelphia District Attorney's office told CNN it strictly follows the state law in an effort to crack down on drug abuse.
"In these efforts we will follow applicable law to protect the rights of those involved -- not only drug dealers and those associated with them -- but the law-abiding citizens who are negatively affected by them."
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Parents' house seized after son's drug bust
By Pamela Brown, CNN
(CNN) -- The rare moments Christos Sourovelis can take a break from running his own painting business, he can be found toiling away on his family's dream house in the suburbs of Philadelphia.
"I'm a working guy. I work every day, six days a week, even seven if I have to," Sourovelis says. One day this past March, without warning, the government took his house away, even though he and his wife, Markella, have never been charged with a crime or accused of any wrongdoing.
"I was so upset thinking somebody's going to take my house for nothing. That makes me crazy," Sourovelis says, shaking his head.
The nightmare began when police showed up at the house and arrested their 22-year-old son, Yianni, on drug charges -- $40 worth of heroin. Authorities say he was selling drugs out of the home. The Sourvelises say they had no knowledge of any involvement their son might have had with drugs.
A month-and-a-half later police came back -- this time to seize their house, forcing the Sourvelises and their children out on the street that day. Authorities came with the electric company in tow to turn off the power and even began locking the doors with screws, the Sourvelises say. Authorities won't comment on the exact circumstances because of pending litigation regarding the case.
Police and prosecutors came armed with a lawsuit against the house itself. It was being forfeited and transferred to the custody of the Philadelphia District Attorney. Authorities said the house was tied to illegal drugs and therefore subject to civil forfeiture.
In two years, nearly 500 families in Philadelphia had their homes or cars taken away by city officials, according to records from Pennsylvania's attorney general.
Authorities use a civil forfeiture law that allows them to seize people's property when that property is connected to the sale of illegal drugs.
CNN legal analyst and consumer attorney, Brian Kabateck, says the law is intended to protect the public. "It discourages crime and it takes the ill-gotten gains away from the bad people."
But not all people who have their property taken away are charged with a crime. Unlike criminal forfeiture, the civil law allows authorities to seize property without the owner ever being convicted or even charged.
In North Carolina property can be forfeited only if the property owner is actually convicted of a crime. This is not so in other states.
Civil liberties attorneys with the Institute for Justice, who recently filed a class action lawsuit against Philadelphia authorities for abusing the law, say, "Civil forfeiture is something that is an assault upon fundamental notions of private property ownership and due process."
But Kabateck disagrees, "It's a good law. It works. That doesn't mean that it doesn't sometimes have issues that need to be corrected. The system constantly has to change."
In Pennsylvania, the City of Brotherly Love is far and away the most aggressive in the state when it comes to people's property. Over a four-year period, Allegheny County, the second largest county in Pennsylvania, filed about 200 petitions for civil forfeiture. Philadelphia filed nearly 7,000 petitions in one year alone, according to the class action lawsuit, in which the Sourvelises are plaintiffs, along with other Philadelphia citizens.
Philadelphia officials seized more than 1,000 houses, about 3,300 vehicles and $44 million in cash, totaling $64 million in civil forfeitures over a 10-year period, according to the lawsuit.
The very authorities taking the property appear to be profiting from it, according to Pennsylvania state records. The Pennsylvania Attorney General's office says about $7 million went straight to the salaries for the Philadelphia District Attorney's office and the police department in just three years. In that same time period, records show the D.A.'s office spent no money on community-based drug and crime-fighting programs, according to the Philadelphia AG's office.
The Philadelphia District Attorney's office told CNN it seizes property only as a last resort, and added that it is limited in what it can currently say because of the pending litigation.
"In most cases the Public Nuisance Task Force doesn't pursue forfeiture because the underlying issue with the real estate is resolved when a settlement agreement is reached with the property owner in which he or she agrees to take reasonable efforts to prevent future narcotics dealing from the property."
The DA's office also says it works directly with citizens, the police, government agencies, and community groups in an effort to abate or close drug properties.
Civil forfeiture can be used on the federal or state level. Only eight states -- Maine, Maryland, Missouri, Indiana, Vermont, North Carolina, Ohio and North Dakota -- require seized funds be placed in a neutral account. Other states allow law enforcement to directly profit from the civil forfeitures or put proceeds into a special crime fighting fund.
In some states, like Pennsylvania, the burden is on the property owner to prove their innocence. The Sourvelises say they had to go to a courtroom and fight to get their home back where, instead of facing a judge, they faced a prosecutor from the DA's office.
There was no courtroom or judge, Christos Sourvelis says. "There's just one guy telling us to sign these papers. That's it."
After eight days of sleeping on a family member's couch, the Sourvelises were let back into their house, but only on the guarantee they would ban their son from the house -- a heartbreaking decision, they say. (Their son pleaded no contest to the drug charges.)
Still fighting the city to resolve their case and stay in their home permanently, Markella Sourovelis says: "To me I'm home, but I feel violated at this point. I'm doing things in my house, but I worry is it always going to be my house? Are they going to take it one day like that?"
The Philadelphia District Attorney's office told CNN it strictly follows the state law in an effort to crack down on drug abuse.
"In these efforts we will follow applicable law to protect the rights of those involved -- not only drug dealers and those associated with them -- but the law-abiding citizens who are negatively affected by them."
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Petty, but goddam do I hate meter maids.
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JimmyRustler is conspicuously absent here.
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He pops in now and then. Pretty sure he watches them.
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Another demonstration of petty power.
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Denver Deputy Suspended for Beating Inmate Who Mocked Taekwondo Skills
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In a year that, by any measure, hasn't exactly been slopping over with shining examples of American law enforcement—the profoundly troubled Denver Sheriff's Department may be the least brilliant of them all.
Which means that the last thing they probably needed was yet another one of their deputies getting caught on video beating the hell out of yet another inmate—this time for allegedly daring to mock a deputy's martial arts skills.
According to the Denver Post, Deputy Roberto Roena has been suspended for 90 days for his role in an April 2013 incident in which he kicked an inmate in the head with a sidekick after the inmate allegedly taunted him about his martial arts skills.
Roena was on courthouse duty and was just paying a visit to coworkers at Denver's Downtown Detention Center where he bragged about his sweet taekwondo skills to the officers on duty.
The Post reports that Roena—a 15-year veteran of the department and an alleged adult—then put down a drink and showed off a taekwondo sidekick into the air, which prompted nearby inmate John Cardenas to (rightfully) make fun of him.
That sort of ribbing didn't sit well with the deputy, who then—as shown in surveillance video—kicked Cardenas in the head with a sidekick, followed by a series of punches. Roena then put Cardenas in a headlock and the two tumbled to the ground before other deputies jumped in to break up the fight.
The high-kickin' deputy—apparently unaware of how video works—claimed self-defense and that he was defending himself from attack by Cardenas, who had a jailhouse reputation for violence but had not actually showed any physical aggression to Roena or the other deputies.
In his letter of reprimand, investigators say that Roena made a very bad decision indeed.
"At the time of the initial interaction, inmate Cardenas posed no objectively reasonable threat to Deputy Roena's safety," the letter said. "It was only after Deputy Roena's poor decision to engage inmate Cardenas that inmate Cardenas demonstrated potentially physically aggressive behavior."
According to the Post, in a disciplinary meeting with officials months after the incident, Roena finally agreed that a cell block in the city jail probably wasn't the best location for a martial arts demonstration.
In the end, it took a shocking 15 months from the time of the incident for city officials to finally discipline Roena for his actions.
This jailhouse martial arts showdown is just the latest in a series of high-profile, deeply embarrassing and very expensive incidents that has prompted Denver officials to finally try and clean up the sheriff's department.
Earlier this year, the city had to pay out $3.25 million to former inmate Jamal Hunter, who in 2011 was grabbed by the neck, choked, beaten and kicked by Deputy Edward Keller while he was being booked at the Downtown Detention Center.
The Hunter case led to the resignation of Sheriff Gary Wilson and a review of the entire department ordered by Mayor Michael Hancock. In addition, a judge has also called for a federal investigation into the department after allegations that officers tried to intimidate a witness in the Hunter case.
That witness, inmate Amos Page, alleges that deputies essentially let him run that Detention Center pod and he would routinely assault other prisoners under orders of deputies. He claimed that he witnessed the Hunter assault, and was warned by department investigators that if he testified he would be implicating himself in a crime.
In another incident also captured on video from this past July, an inmate who was being booked at the facility was punched and kicked by Deputy Thomas Ford. According to investigators, the inmate was being verbally abusive to deputies, but had not actually displayed any physically aggressive moves towards anybody when he was attacked.
Both Keller and Ford—who was also involved in the Hunter case—were finally fired this past week for using excessive force and then lying about their actions on official incident reports.
Keller's attorney says that his client intends to appeal.
And it looks like things could get a lot worse for the beleaguered Denver Sheriff's Department, as a recent Denver Post investigation has uncovered another 45 inmate complaints on file alleging abuse by deputies that have not been investigated by the department.
Denver Deputy Suspended for Beating Inmate Who Mocked Taekwondo Skills
In a year that, by any measure, hasn't exactly been slopping over with shining examples of American law enforcement—the profoundly troubled Denver Sheriff's Department may be the least brilliant of them all.
Which means that the last thing they probably needed was yet another one of their deputies getting caught on video beating the hell out of yet another inmate—this time for allegedly daring to mock a deputy's martial arts skills.
According to the Denver Post, Deputy Roberto Roena has been suspended for 90 days for his role in an April 2013 incident in which he kicked an inmate in the head with a sidekick after the inmate allegedly taunted him about his martial arts skills.
Roena was on courthouse duty and was just paying a visit to coworkers at Denver's Downtown Detention Center where he bragged about his sweet taekwondo skills to the officers on duty.
The Post reports that Roena—a 15-year veteran of the department and an alleged adult—then put down a drink and showed off a taekwondo sidekick into the air, which prompted nearby inmate John Cardenas to (rightfully) make fun of him.
That sort of ribbing didn't sit well with the deputy, who then—as shown in surveillance video—kicked Cardenas in the head with a sidekick, followed by a series of punches. Roena then put Cardenas in a headlock and the two tumbled to the ground before other deputies jumped in to break up the fight.
The high-kickin' deputy—apparently unaware of how video works—claimed self-defense and that he was defending himself from attack by Cardenas, who had a jailhouse reputation for violence but had not actually showed any physical aggression to Roena or the other deputies.
In his letter of reprimand, investigators say that Roena made a very bad decision indeed.
"At the time of the initial interaction, inmate Cardenas posed no objectively reasonable threat to Deputy Roena's safety," the letter said. "It was only after Deputy Roena's poor decision to engage inmate Cardenas that inmate Cardenas demonstrated potentially physically aggressive behavior."
According to the Post, in a disciplinary meeting with officials months after the incident, Roena finally agreed that a cell block in the city jail probably wasn't the best location for a martial arts demonstration.
In the end, it took a shocking 15 months from the time of the incident for city officials to finally discipline Roena for his actions.
This jailhouse martial arts showdown is just the latest in a series of high-profile, deeply embarrassing and very expensive incidents that has prompted Denver officials to finally try and clean up the sheriff's department.
Earlier this year, the city had to pay out $3.25 million to former inmate Jamal Hunter, who in 2011 was grabbed by the neck, choked, beaten and kicked by Deputy Edward Keller while he was being booked at the Downtown Detention Center.
The Hunter case led to the resignation of Sheriff Gary Wilson and a review of the entire department ordered by Mayor Michael Hancock. In addition, a judge has also called for a federal investigation into the department after allegations that officers tried to intimidate a witness in the Hunter case.
That witness, inmate Amos Page, alleges that deputies essentially let him run that Detention Center pod and he would routinely assault other prisoners under orders of deputies. He claimed that he witnessed the Hunter assault, and was warned by department investigators that if he testified he would be implicating himself in a crime.
In another incident also captured on video from this past July, an inmate who was being booked at the facility was punched and kicked by Deputy Thomas Ford. According to investigators, the inmate was being verbally abusive to deputies, but had not actually displayed any physically aggressive moves towards anybody when he was attacked.
Both Keller and Ford—who was also involved in the Hunter case—were finally fired this past week for using excessive force and then lying about their actions on official incident reports.
Keller's attorney says that his client intends to appeal.
And it looks like things could get a lot worse for the beleaguered Denver Sheriff's Department, as a recent Denver Post investigation has uncovered another 45 inmate complaints on file alleging abuse by deputies that have not been investigated by the department.
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Pittsburgh cops... real pros
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Police raided a Louisville bar, and a video posted on YouTube shows police searching patrons and employees before allowing them to leave.
No warrant. Is this legal?
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Guy recorded a magistrate hearing regarding a case he was involved in by holding an iPhone in his hand, later posting it on Youtube for his viewers back in Poland.
Cops in full military gear raided his home, charging him with felony wiretapping, a charge that was reduced to misdemeanor disorderly conduct after he spent ten days in jail.
Cops in full military gear raided his home, charging him with felony wiretapping, a charge that was reduced to misdemeanor disorderly conduct after he spent ten days in jail.
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Baltimore: protect and serve. Nice work officer.
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