Disagreeable Menswear Post Of The Day

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain...
I recently read that Rutger Hauer ad-libbed that.
Time to die!
 
IIRC he edited it. The original line is out there somewhere on the interwebs.

In the documentary Dangerous Days: Making Blade Runner, Hauer, director Ridley Scott, and screenwriter David Peoples confirm that Hauer significantly modified the "Tears in Rain" speech. In his autobiography, Hauer said he merely cut the original scripted speech by several lines, adding only, "All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain".[9] One earlier version in Peoples' draft screenplays was:

I've known adventures, seen places you people will never see, I've been Offworld and back… frontiers! I've stood on the back deck of a blinker bound for the Plutition Camps with sweat in my eyes watching stars fight on the shoulder of Orion... I’ve felt wind in my hair, riding test boats off the black galaxies and seen an attack fleet burn like a match and disappear. I've seen it, felt it...![10]
And, the original script, before Hauer's rewrite, was:

I've seen things... seen things you little people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion bright as magnesium... I rode on the back decks of a blinker and watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments... they'll be gone.[11]
Hauer described this as "opera talk" and "hi-tech speech" with no bearing on the rest of the film, so he "put a knife in it" the night before filming, without Scott's knowledge.[12] After filming the scene with Hauer's version, crew-members applauded, with some even in tears.[7] In an interview with Dan Jolin, Hauer said that these final lines showed that Batty wanted to "make his mark on existence ... the replicant in the final scene, by dying, shows Deckard what a real man is made of".[13]
 
Yes, the button is too high. Moreover the lapel is ridiculously narrow and the shoulders dropping.
Not forgetting the plimsoles.

Here's a few for critique from the latest edition of The Chap:

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He's some dude who's moved to California and gone native.
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Don’t even care that much, it’s almost become Donald‘s trademark like pointy clown shoos on tackys like CRAP-Tom or Gianni Cacarutti.
 
American presidents always wear their ties long in the length. Trump may have been longer than most, but not radically so.
Don't know, to me that tie looks ridiculously too long, not to mention the pieces of tape visible on the back in some pics.



Also too long:
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Somewhat better:
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That's what happened when he was invited to a Miami Vice themed party and all he had to work with was his grandpa's wardrobe.
 
Some new kid at AAAC pretends to be an aristocrat but fails to give off the air needed.


 
I thought they gave the kid a too hard time. Anyway, I had no idea a Trachtenjanker existed and I like it. Now where is my Nehru?
 
Youth is a mitigating circumstance, but it's the guy himself drawing cutting remarks. Maybe a little more modesty and restraint?
 
Some new kid at AAAC pretends to be an aristocrat but fails to give off the air needed.


The man in the polka dot tie could be an extra in ‘Snatch’

‘Stop me again while I’m walking and i’ll cut your **** Jacobs off!’

I once got likened to Brick Top in a pub near Bunhill Row. I was wearing a rather thick spectacle frame at the time.
 
The problem with all those European aristocats, is that they all look very honest and earnest fellows.

I prefer the aristo-casual look, like Prince Bernhard:

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Come on gentlemen. This is a boy. Give him a break. A break for maybe a week, and then over to Shooey for boot camp.

An example of how it all works.

Situation = a traffic jam

Boy aristocrat
(reaches in back seat for his top hat)
(grabs his megaphone)
(sticks head out of car window)

I am an aristocrat,
and l need all of you common folk to make way,
i am not an ordinary person,
and my status requires the public don't keep me waiting

The public
Look at the man sticking his head out the window,
he is wearing a top hat,
he said he was an aristocrat,
better not keep him waiting,
we better move out of his way,
he is obviously very important.

(Would make for a good video)
 
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Exceptional, not only does Prince Michael of Kent, sport T&A bespoke shirts, his ties are too. Think of the cost of that, but it all fits in with the artisto-casual aesthetic. Nothing affected about his sartorialism.
He does stick to a bunch of basic principles that will work for anyone.

Don't wear stingy collars
High collars will always look better
Within reason chunky tie knots will look better.
Clothes should fit
Don't wear clothes too tight
Keep it simple
Dress for your age
Keep up with the times a bit
but
Neither a (fashion) leader nor a follower be.
 
Are those bit loafers he's wearing Ferragamo? Looks like they could be, which is surprising.

I just noticed that this is in 'disagreeable'. Surely a mistake.
 
Are those bit loafers he's wearing Ferragamo? Looks like they could be, which is surprising.

I just noticed that this is in 'disagreeable'. Surely a mistake.
You're right, this is the wrong thread, but we were talking about aristocratic look, introduced by that bad example of the German young man.
 

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