fake tailors and craftsmen (who also happen to be tackies) Exposed

[Scherensammler]

Best to not lower yourself to his level. If you joined DW to contribute, that is good. If you joined to confront him please reconsider and put your energy into other thread postings.

Understood! Post edited! May I ask to do the same? I don't want to cause any more upset!

 

[Arnathor]

If you denounce/dismount/unmount the tackies turkies, all will be forgiven.

 

[Thruth]

I have deleted the last few posts including some of mine

 

[Scherensammler]

There have always been those who claimed to do or deliver something that they actually don't. It has been going on since the end of WWII, at least. There used to be travelling cloth merchants who sold fake English or Italian cloths to mostly farmers at very high prices. And a lot of them were Italian... (the merchants, that is)!
In the olden days the price was a good indicator, but now you can easily pay more for MTM than for full bespoke, and I'm not just talking Kiton and alike.
It's ok to flag them as what they really are, but I wonder if it makes any difference. There will always be those that are attracted and have enough money to try it and, if it fails, don't have to worry about it. And I guess that's the clientele those folks are looking for.
It's a (sadly) successful business model, aided by fashion bloggers and the internet in general and there is little one can do about it.
A bit like fighting wind mills...

 

[Thruth]

Very true. But even if this knowledge is just for internal DW consumption it makes for interesting conversation.

Gianni Cerrutti was outed as a huckster and while it might have saved a few iGents some money he seems to be thriving off the forums.

The more people that are aware of good vs. bad as well as how products are shilled by blogs is a good thing

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

If you denounce/dismount/unmount the tackies turkies, all will be forgiven.

well said, no turkish on the European Union.

 

[Scherensammler]

The more people that are aware of good vs. bad as well as how products are shilled by blogs is a good thing

Agreed!

Old school tailors are hardly good businessmen, and good businessmen hardly make good tailors, but it seems the latter are far more successful and sometimes even exploit the former.
Never heard of Gianni Cerrutti before, but can't say I care about 7-fold ties enough to want one either. I do own "real Italian" ties, though! The ship from China might even have stopped in Naples for packaging and labelling (which technically makes it a "Neapolitan" tie due to Italian legislation).

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

Agreed!

Old school tailors are hardly good businessmen, and good businessmen hardly make good tailors, but it seems the latter are far more successful and sometimes even exploit the former.
Never heard of Gianni Cerrutti before, but can't say I care about 7-fold ties enough to want one either. I do own "real Italian" ties, though! The ship from China might even have stopped in Naples for packaging and labelling (which technically makes it a "Neapolitan" tie due to Italian legislation).

This troll is offending we real arthisans who work 14 hours a day on real sartorias with brands as Prada, whose owner and heritor is the number 2 of the Italian Communist Party by the way ( what hipocrite to sell 2000e bags by calling for communism) , who were caught having boats with asians on the Italian sea sewing made in Italy tags.

This ignorant is saying all the honest Neapolitans are fakers.

Please ban this offender who is obvious a hater and an ignorant as well as a tacky.

 

[Scherensammler]

This ignorant is saying all the honest Neapolitans are fakers.

Good heavens, you need to inform yourself better. And learn how to read properly. When and where did I say that?
Italian law allows to use "Made in Italy" if an item is labelled and packaged in Italy (if imported from elsewhere).
Same goes for companies that have a letterbox in Italy (Naples, Rome, Milan, Florence) and put that on their labels.
Plus it's easy to register under or use an Italian name or title. If all these factors come together you get an item that has "Made in Italy" along with the name of a city on it, while it's actually made elswhere.

This troll is offending we real arthisans who work 14 hours a day on real sartorias

I now see what your problem is: Lack of sleep. Between all that work and hunting badspokers you hardly get some.

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

Good heavens, you need to inform yourself better. And learn how to read properly. When and where did I say that?
Italian law allows to use "Made in Italy" if an item is labelled and packaged in Italy (if imported from elsewhere).
Same goes for companies that have a letterbox in Italy (Naples, Rome, Milan, Florence) and put that on their labels.
Plus it's easy to register under or use an Italian name or title. If all these factors come together you get an item that has "Made in Italy" along with the name of a city on it, while it's actually made elswhere.



I now see what your problem is: Lack of sleep. Between all that work and hunting badspokers you hardly get some.

You are the one who needs to read better, as on my answer, there was afirmation already of it, the corrupted European textile law, allows put a tag on made in Europe if even just the tag is sewn in Europe. Period.

But no real Neapolitan arthisan or tiemaker ( that i know) makes the ties on Asia or on boats as you said.

You seem deeply desinformed about High Tailoring, your place are the Spanish ghey forums as Corned Sissys or SinAbrochar clasico, unbuttoned classic is the translation, how can be classic but unbottoned at once, only on the mind of a tacky bribed shill already expossed.

 

[Thruth]

I don't believe he is saying anything about high tailoring. He is talking more about RTW.

In fact, he is agreeing with your point of view that good tailors and artisans put their craft ahead of big prices.

Pay attention to what people write

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

I don't believe he is saying anything about high tailoring. He is talking more about RTW.

In fact, he is agreeing with your point of view that good tailors and artisans put their craft ahead of big prices.

Pay attention to what people write

that is true, but also said that he didn´t want a 7 fold because he got no idea, and also didn´t want a rebranded chinese garment.please do not manipulate

 

[Thruth]

that is true, but also said that he didn´t want a 7 fold because he got no idea, and also didn´t want a rebranded chinese garment.please do not manipulate

So if someone says they don't know enough or care enough to have a 7 fold tie they are a troll and a scammer. Most men would not know what a 7 fold tie is.

Both you and he said that he Italian laws allow for manipulation of what made in Italy means and could actually be made in China.

The only manipulation is your misreading of what people say.

 

[fxh]

The ship from China might even have stopped in Naples for packaging and labelling (which technically makes it a "Neapolitan" tie due to Italian legislation).

I always thought with most goods, say eyeglass frames for instance, it was enough if the plane flew over Italy or the storeman said "Ciao baby" when the boxes left the Chinese factory.

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

He could say Milanese, as are where all the faked brands belong, Gucci, Crapmani, Prada etc, but that i know, any Neapolitan high tailoring one has been faked and rebranded. Period.

 

[Thruth]

He could say Milanese, as are where all the faked brands belong, Gucci, Crapmani, Prada etc, but that i know, any Neapolitan high tailoring one has been faked and rebranded. Period.

he could say Milan or Rome or anywhere else. He said it could even happen in Napoli if someone chose to do it even though it is the centre of high tailoring and it does not happen. But, on one hand you are defending the honour of artisans of high tailoring in Napoli while on the other hand you expose the scammers and untailors in Napoli. Even you have been taken advantage of by Napoli scammers.

So since there is slimely unmen-untailors in Napoli there is potential for this to happen.

As you say, the good artisans Napoli are hidden from iGents so all we know are the tacky's that you point out. so as far as we know the only UN artisans are Orazio, Cerrutti, Pirozzi, Rubinnacci, NSM, Paone, Cappelli. All tacky unmen, untailors, scammers and Gheys. I bet they all have made in China garments.

 

[Grand Potentate]

Calm the fuck down Sartodi. Jesus.

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

he could say Milan or Rome or anywhere else. He said it could even happen in Napoli if someone chose to do it even though it is the centre of high tailoring and it does not happen. But, on one hand you are defending the honour of artisans of high tailoring in Napoli while on the other hand you expose the scammers and untailors in Napoli. Even you have been taken advantage of by Napoli scammers.

So since there is slimely unmen-untailors in Napoli there is potential for this to happen.

As you say, the good artisans Napoli are hidden from iGents so all we know are the tacky's that you point out. so as far as we know the only UN artisans are Orazio, Cerrutti, Pirozzi, Rubinnacci, NSM, Paone, Cappelli. All tacky unmen, untailors, scammers and Gheys. I bet they all have made in China garments.

The only ok of that list is NSM, who commisions most of her orders on good old tailors i said are affordable, while those igents of SF said no suits can be get under 1000e, i she does by a few more, and only is a agent of third parties, how is not possible?

my haters; bunch of brand whores ignorants.

 

[Thruth]

It is good that there are

The only ok of that list is NSM, who commisions most of her orders on good old tailors i said are affordable, while those igents of SF said no suits can be get under 1000e, i she does by a few more, and only is a agent of third parties, how is not possible?

my haters; bunch of brand whores ignorants.

Hmm, before you said Mina was hype.

Yes as is a forum for igents and brand hype followers, unable to.id crap from a good work, it seems they are on the 2015 hype that is the insurrected ex Tackynacci untailor.

Mina was 2013 hype

Gheyanni was 2014

And Napoli'Sarto will be 2016

 

[Thruth]

The only ok of that list is NSM, who commisions most of her orders on good old tailors i said are affordable, while those igents of SF said no suits can be get under 1000e, i she does by a few more, and only is a agent of third parties, how is not possible?

my haters; bunch of brand whores ignorants.

 

[Grand Potentate]

Lollololololllol

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

It is good that there are


Hmm, before you said Mina was hype.

Yes was hype for sure, but where did i say had bad quality?

U OWNED

 

[Thruth]

Yes was hype for sure, but where did i say had bad quality?

U OWNED

Your imprecise language insinuates that she is crap:

Yes as is a forum for igents and brand hype followers, unable to.id crap from a good work,

And then you list her as 2013 hype. You did not say: NSM, hyped but good work because she uses the good old tailors that iGents don't use

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

Your imprecise language insinuates that she is crap:

Yes as is a forum for igents and brand hype followers, unable to.id crap from a good work,

And then you list her as 2013 hype. You did not say: NSM, hyped but good work because she uses the good old tailors that iGents don't use
View attachment 4951

said hyped and that is true, was the hyped igent brand on 2013, never said she was bad or good, only the truth, hyped.

 

[Thruth]

Unclear and since your default is to only talk about bad, that is the way it reads.

 

[Scherensammler]

O boy, the list of words which, either on their own or in combination, trigger those fits is way too long and unclear at the same time.

I always thought with most goods, say eyeglass frames for instance, it was enough if the plane flew over Italy or the storeman said "Ciao baby" when the boxes left the Chinese factory.

Those must be for the American market. For the rest of the world the workers sing "O sole mio", which is enough to allow the plane or ship to bypass Italy.

NSM did a great job for Manton, even though he kind of complained about a tight fit.
BTW, why is Rubinacci on the badspokers list? Don't they use the good old-school tailors as well? Or is it because Luca wears tacky outfits at Pitti?

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

Langa ( te tanga)

Made for the shill Crap-tom, he said great fit and great attention to details.

Note what attention to detail, the lapel buttonhole is crooked, the sleeves are crap as in all the Madrid untailors, the back is a crime and in general the jacket is as almost ugly as that bold bribed tacky.

Note the too tall shit collar on this absolute ignorant shill.

Note the poor attempt to imitate the spalla camicia with stitching over it, simply poor and disgusting.
ignorant

Price; double than a top fit Neapolitan one. Note this is the recommended untailor of the arstocrat who he said me he charges 2000e to send politicians to him, that is being a corrupted.

Politician on Langa,

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

Now one of my haters, Panta.

Did you see how all my haters are untailors who deliver a poor product?

See this poor imitation of a Neapolitan 7 fold, but i think is machine made rolled, as by hand is quite impossible to do something as bad

, unless you are Langa, of course.

See the Langa poor handwork with 1 stitch per kilometer and the orlo is not folded twice but once, i have never seen such a poor job, this is a true scam, and specially the ugly reinforce piece, only a true ignorant with the bad taste of the arstocrat could wear and promote that crap.

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

Worst ever patternmatching, and shill of this same untailor.

Note, this untailor told me the patternmatching was perfect, jajaja. When other real tailor said on the forum the crap it is ( see the trouser, the pockets etc) the good tailor was banned, and the untailor said iw was perfect. jajajaja

I love this humour blog. Poor of the readers. Also the famous horizontal striped shirt and the stupid thing of wearing at once, side adjusters and braces, this abnormal is crazy, see how any sides on the trouser or jacket do matches, jajajaja

El Aristócrata: BESPOKE XIII: TRADICIÓN Y MODERNINDAD SE DAN LA MANO DESDE EL NÚMERO 5 DE FÉLIX BOIX

 

[Thruth]

Worst ever patternmatching, and shill of this same untailor.

Note, this untailor told me the patternmatching was perfect, jajaja. When other real tailor said on the forum the crap it is ( see the trouser, the pockets etc) the good tailor was banned, and the untailor said iw was perfect. jajajaja

I love this humour blog. Poor of the readers. Also the famous horizontal striped shirt and the stupid thing of wearing at once, side adjusters and braces, this abnormal is crazy, see how any sides on the trouser or jacket do matches, jajajajaView attachment 4969

El Aristócrata: BESPOKE XIII: TRADICIÓN Y MODERNINDAD SE DAN LA MANO DESDE EL NÚMERO 5 DE FÉLIX BOIX

that is a horrible combination of shirt, pants and tie combo. messed up pattern matching as well as having no eye for properly mixing patterns

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

Wow, this shirt pattern has nothing to be with a real shirt, even the sleeve has the pattern of a shirt, is only rectangular pieces whose only semblance to a human body is pure coincidence, normal the result is this crap.

See also the poor fit of the trouser, even the students who did their first trouser, did a very good one, this is ill with wrong patternmatching.

This is the untailor who sells himself as master tailor with my same age and my master said" master of horrors" after he watched this same pics. This were printed for the walls of the school. Also, what kind of " man", takes a pic of his butt? only the kind of men that Robertito likes.

The worst of this, is that Langa te tanga has increased his sales, mainly by victims of this blogs, of course all of them tacky as Hell.

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

See the sartorial crimes of this Langa te Tanga " maestro " dil orrore
Joaquín Fernández Prats
See also the pattern in chalk, an abomination whose resemblance to a good pattern is pure coincidence, note the too rounded as a ballon scye where two arms do fit on it.

Now this aberration of mixes, failed attempt of convex ( late 70s) shoulders ( note how the shoulder is sawtooth like, defective, wants to be a slim suit but has shoulder extent, and ends mixing Prada and Dolce 2010 micro lapels, with baggy bad fit.

YES, MAESTRO!!!! VERY MAESTRO!!! TOREROOO RARARA.

JAJAJAJA MASTER OF HORRORS!

Note; I was talking once with the owner of a Scottish mill, i asked him, who are the worse ever mills? He answered, the Chinesse, some Indian, and one awful awful Spanish, called Gorina that does thick carpet like fabrics with poor drape and harsh finishing. The shame of the textiles he said.

Note what this Langa untailor says, Gorina is great ,jajajajaj This ignorant narcissistics scam all their clients.

Joaquin fernandez Prats19 de octubre de 2013, 10:41

Estimado amigo, sin duda gorina es una gran casa de tejidos y cualquier tejido que escoja será un acierto.

 

[prince nez]

View attachment 4968

That's poor. Looks like it's stuck on with blu tack.

 

[Scherensammler]

Been (briefly) to the Passagio thread and then checked my old ties. One of the few printed silk ones I own is more vintage than his ones. And mine was very cheap!
I don't know if he's uncapable to react (poor language skills) or if he has been advised to not react to questions or doubts regarding his products. I think it's the latter.
It's a technique often used by dodgy enterprises. A friend of mine worked for a German MTM company. In his sales training he was explicitly told to not answer questions regarding where the garments are made and by whom. They actually have a special line for those occasions. He's also been told not to be too critical regarding the fit of the garments to avoid costly alterations!
The boss of Cove is on the left. The man on the right has a Spanish sounding name (Francisco de Asis Aguilera Aranda)! His stuff doesn't appear to be bespoke though!

They now claim to be "Die Maßschneider"! (German for bespoke tailors!)

And they use un-manly linings!

Those trousers in the picture SdN posted are not only poorly made but will also be very uncomfortable in places where men usually need and want comfort...:darthyuno: (I've only chosen this icon due to it's resemblance with what is in danger in those trousers)!

 

[Grand Potentate]

That lining

 

[Scherensammler]

That lining

What really bothers me is that unaligned label. I would make them do that properly or leave it out in the first place.

 

[prince nez]

Sarto, WTF is going on here with your mate the Arstocrat? Did he get into a fight with a sewing machine?

Proceso de Americana a medida en Sastrería Serna (Capítulo II) - SinAbrochar

 

[Scherensammler]

Never seen a fitting like this. Quite unsusual.
Where's SdN? Still working?

This is how patternmatching should be done in trousers:

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

Sarto, WTF is going on here with your mate the Arstocrat? Did he get into a fight with a sewing machine?

Proceso de Americana a medida en Sastrería Serna (Capítulo II) - SinAbrochar

He( she on this particular case) is not the arstocrat, this is the WANNABE, who on the first page of his blog, called unbuttoned classic ( how the Hell can be unbuttoned and classic, can you be wet and dry at once, this wackos rape even the basic everything) ask for SEND GARMENTS FOR A REVIEW, so on this case is a MAXIMEGASHILL, note how only third line brands has booked him. The Craptom of Ex-pain.

The arstocrat is the one on horizontal stripes., but both have shilled the same unshirtmaking house, the worst after Burgos, and he learnt there decades ago. Langa ( te tanga)

About this pleats you ask me, i think are just pleats done by the tailor to take in all that useless bad calculated extra room for the next fit, but WAIT, this totally IGNORANT says are a " tailoring special feature" jajajaja JAJAJAJAJA

Those lapels seem for a Double breast jacket of the ugly kind of Sciamat shitmat, unless he is trying to do a monster jacket with weird inverted pleats ( as the 1900 had on the half of the back) but on the sides, who knows about this fashionastackys/weirdos?

I will translate;


¿Os acordáis de esos detalles especiales que ya adelantamos en el primer capitulo? Pues uno de ellos está ya presente en este boceto real de la prenda: El fuelle en la espalda tras la manga.

bla bla bla, one of the most special details is the spring/pleat on the back. ( jajajajajajaja)



Como podéis comprobar, ese pliegue que hace sombra sobre si mismo y que nace en la costura del hombro, bajando solidario a la costura de la manga por su parte posterior esese fuelle que os mostramos en ese boceto ilustrativo y uno de los detalles, para mí, más especiales de esta chaqueta.

As you can check, that pleat does a shadow over itself, borns on the sewn of the shoulder, falling alone
to the sewn of the sleeve on his back part, THAT PLEAT THAT WE SHOW YOU BEFORE, IS ONE OF THE MOST SPECIAL DETAILS OF THIS GARMENT, at least is not using that crap of Gorina, the other untailor said was excellent. jajaja Maybe this unkown arthisan does better than those 5 untailors as Gallo, Larrainzar, LangateTanga and Calvo de Mora, actually the worst in the world, but they say beat Savile and Naples.

Is the finished garment visible?

Second translation into Neapolitan Slang; I am a total ignorant about tailoring, so when i see this things, i think myself i am on the Milenium Falcon, but behind me is the Delorean of Back to the SHITSHILL, and this way i try to fool tackys and ignorants into this tailoring house, with my schyzphrenic delirium, so i also get this garment for free, and maybe a few euros to buy my AntiPsychotic medicine i forgot to take this morning.

note, curious this ignorant called me schyzophrenic, another case of " projection" where the mads calls the others what they are already, this is very common on this tackys.


RESUME; this lazy has never got a proper job on his degenerate life, and wants to fool he is an expert, get a full wardrobe for free, and got his 15 twinks of his awful forum/blog say he is the best.

GET A REAL JOB, FIND DIGNITY AND STOP LYING AND TALKING NONSENSE, YOU ARE A RIDICULOUS IGNORANT.

When this ignorant contacted me, i sent him to shit, then he went to cry all his twinks a real man sent him to shit. jajajaja

Would you like to know how much does this weirdos last in Naples if they try to have for free a garment? Half slap, as are sissys and can get spinal damage forever.

 

[Sartodi Napoli]

EDITED;

I Dared this tacky ignorant could have a real disgusting bad idea, a real PROFANATION of classic style, and that he was already TRYING TO BE SCIAMAT SHITMAT.

Sadly i was right;


Uno de los elementos prácticamente sugerido por él fue el uso de coronas en hombros más pronunciadas y con la característica Spalla Camicia napolitana. Detalle con los que no pude estar más de acuerdo, agregando además un picado doble y sobretensionado en la zona de la costura del hombro.

HE WANTS A DOUBLE PICK STITCHING, ALSO EXAGERATED WATERFALL PLEATS ( SHITMAT)

BUT WANTS THE UGLY SPANISH 80S LAPEL ( WHO WAS ALREADY COPIED MAINLY FROM BRIONI RTW OF THAT TIME)

( Note, this president, was the one who betrayed the principles of the Franco´s Movement that he promised with a Bible to never do, a a traitor who even the King got rid of him), was commonly know as a cocaine addicted, bipolar with frequent changes of mood, he got Alzheimer, mainly of so much consume.

See him here totally snorted.

Spain was drug free until he entered on 1977, those years were plenty of heroin addicts who died, my school was plenty of syringes on the early 80s and got to have cleaned every morning. This democrat traitor brought the drug into Spain. He was forced by the King to leave the presidency and a great general with High Values as well as my army top colleagues around was pointing him with a pistol to get rid of this degenerate, and his party got a few votes on the next election, he also got totally broke, and the King gave him an aristocrativ tittle to have this junkie happy, as well as tons of cash monthly. Note, one of the Suarez untailors, was shooted on strange ways on a highway on 1993. Or he delivered this unjackets to a client with good taste and weapons at hand, or the tailor was involved on shady things. This is also well know on the tailoring world this tacky is just a ROOKIE ON BAD TASTE.


He is now on the deepest Hell.

NOTE HOW BADLY DONE ARE HIS JACKETS, SPECIALLY THE SPANISH SLEEVES, ALWAYS OUT OF PITCH, BECAUSE MADRID TAILORING IS SIMPLY THE WORST EVER EXISTED. THIS DATES FROM THE LATE 70S

Note how he is totally cocked on the phone image. Obvious as we all who have had relatives on high steps of the society know by first hand.

This is the crap this tacky wants to imitate instead of imitating High Values. A TOTAL DEGENERATE AS WELL AS HIS FOLLOWERS. LOW LIVERS!

WANTS THIS 1920s like feature, i dare this time copied from this love, the ghey Mohammed RaroMararo, who featured this ugly mix, and i hope Isis finds him asap. ( ANOTHER SCIAMAT FEATURE)

Otro detalle que en este caso propuse yo, y que gustó mucho a Agustín, fue el tipo de solapa. Pensamos en esas solapas amplias de cran bajo y abierto que solía vestirAdolfo Suárez en sus trajes. Pero para dar un toque más desenfadado las dotaríamostambién de un picado doble y sobretensionado. Detalle que si bien es considerado por los profesionales españoles como un error, y sin embargo, es muy valorado y usado por la sastrería napolitana.

Otro elemento que tuve más o menos claro desde el principio fueron los bolsillos laterales. Pretendía que, como en la mayoría de mis chaquetas, fueran tipo parche. Pero en esta ocasión me apetecía que fueran diferentes...

Pensamos en la idea de dotarlos de un pequeño fuelle interno. Y poco después pensamos en incluir un refuerzo cosido en triángulo invertido en la parte de la boca, que a su vez formaría una media luna con una desviación de un par de centímetros entre un punto y otro. Sin duda uno de los grandes retos de esta prenda.




NOW, THE MOST WEIRD, THIS WERE NOT TO TAKE IN THE JACKET SHOULDERS ( WERE YES, AS WAS CUTTED TOO WIDE, BUT HE WAS FEATURING A REAL SCHYZOFRENIC TACKY FEAUTURE, A WEIRD SPRING/PLEAT ON THE SIDES, HE SAID IT COMES FROM THE HUNTING
JACKETS,

I RECOMMEND YOU, TO COMMISION A STRAIGHT JACKET, THE ULTIMATE COMMISION FOR PEOPLE AS YOU AND PROFANATORS OF CLASSIC STYLE.


En una de nuestras últimas conversaciones en las que tratábamos el tipo de fit que prefería, le hice hincapié a Agustín sobre la idea de que me gustan las americanas ceñidas en cintura, a pesar de no contar con un físico especialmente agraciado en este punto. Y pensando en la inclusión de otro elemento novedoso, recordé esos fuelles tras el hombro que podemos ver en algunas chaquetas de caza. Y pensé que quizás sería la solución perfecta para poder ceñir en cintura lo suficiente sin que de este modo se viera comprometida la movilidad.

Está claro que este no es un recurso válido para una chaqueta más formal, pero recuerdo que en este caso buscábamos una prenda más desenfadada.



Y vamos a por el último detalle incluido, que no goza de la total simpatía por parte de Agustín. Se trata de la elección del puño tipo camisero -o tipo Teba-. Sin embargo, me comentó que en la prueba de cantos podría presentarme una manga con este puño esbozado y de esta manera saldríamos de dudas. Y así haremos.

No obstante, yo estoy convencido de que puede ser una buena elección porque, si que es verdad que decantará irremediablemente a esta chaqueta como de sport, pero ¿Acaso no lo estaría ya con el resto de elementos?


THE MOST WEIRD THING, TO ADD TO A SUPPOSEDLY ATTEMP OF HUNTING ( hunting unmen on "mens" bathroom), SCIAMAT, AND MOHAMMED, THIS TIME SHIRT CUFFS WITH GAUNTLET, JAJAJAAJA THIS TACKY REALLY DESERVES TO BE ON THIS SECTION.

I AM WAITING TO SEE THE FINISHED UNJACKET TO LAUGH LOUD AND PRINT FOR OUR WALL OF HORRORS.



HIS OUTBADFITS AND BADSPOKE;

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