General fitness

[Fwiffo]

Has anyone tried polyphasic or biphasic sleep? Does it work better?

I first read about it a few years ago from some young guy (sounds like a computer guy who works at home) who was training himself to get more hours of the day playing around with sleep cycles and your circadian rhythm. Lately I've been reading that Cristiano Ronaldo and Robert Lewandowski use it. Anyone who knows anything about Ronaldo knows the guy is a fitness freak.

It would have been neat to try during the lockdown days but I also drink alcohol so I doubt it would work for me.

On the contrary I read Tom Brady is in bed for 9 hours but it's one sleep period.

 

[QuandoDio]

Has anyone tried polyphasic or biphasic sleep? Does it work better?

I first read about it a few years ago from some young guy (sounds like a computer guy who works at home) who was training himself to get more hours of the day playing around with sleep cycles and your circadian rhythm. Lately I've been reading that Cristiano Ronaldo and Robert Lewandowski use it. Anyone who knows anything about Ronaldo knows the guy is a fitness freak.

It would have been neat to try during the lockdown days but I also drink alcohol so I doubt it would work for me.

On the contrary I read Tom Brady is in bed for 9 hours but it's one sleep period.

I did. When I was young enough (and stupid enough)! - biphasic sleep of sorts.Not Polyphasic sleep, that's for eejits.

As for what these celebs claim. I would take it with a pinch of salt. For e.g Lewadowski is famous for his backwards eating diet which basically involves eating his dessert first (which he eats daily).
You really need to read Amazon product.

Sleep is something you really shouldn't be fucking about with too much.

PS

Messi and LeBron (and Brady) are known for sleeping over 10 hours a night and close to 12 hours a day

 

[Dropbear]

That is a LOT of sleep!

Somewhat related, my wife is always on the kids’ cases about getting enough sleep. She firmly believes and tells them that if they don’t sleep for 10yrs a night they won’t reach their full height potential. I haven’t looked at the studies, but I’m very skeptical of this threat.

 

[QuandoDio]

That is a LOT of sleep!

Somewhat related, my wife is always on the kids’ cases about getting enough sleep. She firmly believes and tells them that if they don’t sleep for 10yrs a night they won’t reach their full height potential. I haven’t looked at the studies, but I’m very skeptical of this threat.

I am with my wife on this. Correlation does not equal causation off but growth hormone is normally released during sleep. If someone is consistently sleep deprived, growth hormone is also suppressed. And poor sleep also affects regulation of other hormones.

 

[Dropbear]

I am with my wife on this. Correlation does not equal causation off but growth hormone is normally released during sleep. If someone is consistently sleep deprived, growth hormone is also suppressed. And poor sleep also affects regulation of other hormones.

I can see that in kids who are genuinely, systematically deprived of sleep throughout their childhoods. Like kids raise in conflict areas where they are bombed overnight or have to stay on the move day and night. Though even then the difference can’t be that great or we would see it in some generations in different areas of the globe.

I figure the body is pretty good at self-regulating - we get tired when we need sleep. My wife is nagging my son for staying up a half hour too long or waking up an hour early on weekends because he just isn’t tired - telling him he will be a midget without that extra essential sleep.

 

[Dropbear]

I continue to add muscle, but weight/ body fat remains the same. I’ve upped the protein and still working on keeping carbs under 50g (milk and cheese are hurting me there, though). Not counting calories, but I think I’m doing ok there. It’s not like I want to lose a lot of fat - just 5-10 pound - but I’m just not getting anywhere. In a couple more months I will be Schwartzenager with a little belly!

 

[QuandoDio]

^^Didn't you just start upping the ante less than a month ago?
Body adaptations take longer than that? IME, a few months or so

I mean, if you really want to do the chick 'drop ten pounds in a month schtick', then I'd skip the milk and cheese (my weakness too) for a while and up the cardio. It helps lean out.

You don't have to go crazy on the treadmill - just up the step count.

 

[Dropbear]

True, I haven’t given it much time. I’ve decades of experience with toning and adding muscle, but this is the first time in my (slim) life I’ve ever needed to cut fat. It’s a lot harder than adding muscle!

 

[Jan Libourel]

I have read that Fr. Francis Hugh Maycock--the head of Pusey House, Oxford, and the priest who prepared me for baptism and confirmation in the Church of England--was supposed to have slept 17 out of the 24 hours in the day. One might think that much slumber would be a Fountain of Youth, but he looked pretty old and decrepit to me, even though he was only in his early 60s. However, when you're 21, I suppose everybody in his early 60s looks old and decrepit. Nowadays, people in their early 60s seem positively youthful to me, some of the women downright alluring!

 

[belinmad]

I continue to add muscle, but weight/ body fat remains the same. I’ve upped the protein and still working on keeping carbs under 50g (milk and cheese are hurting me there, though). Not counting calories, but I think I’m doing ok there. It’s not like I want to lose a lot of fat - just 5-10 pound - but I’m just not getting anywhere. In a couple more months I will be Schwartzenager with a little belly!

Ozempic

 

[Sammy Ambrose]

Ozempic

Someone I know had the injections and lost 20kg on about 3 months. Amazing result.

 

[belinmad]

Someone I know had the injections and lost 20kg on about 3 months. Amazing result.

My wife has been on it for 10 weeks, lost 10kg. Not even on the target dose yet 😱