SartodiNapoli's Shirt, Tie & Pocket Square Company

HenryC said:
They look very shiny and noisy. Shine could be the fabric though. Noise probably from the very low ISO you are using. I shoot on 100 ISO with custom white balance but that's under full studio/lights set up. Arnathor is the expert though I'm just self taught with a few tips from photographer friends along the way.
For what you are doing you are probably better off forgetting about the studio images and just finding a nice big window and set up a table next to it using the nice natural light from outside as your light, and take images from a few angles i.e rolled up from the front and flat on the back at a consistent angle.
I won't post any of my images in this thread but you can have a look on the website to see how they turn out. It's important though you get consistency with the angles your images are taken from and the way they are displayed.
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The shine i think is the flash, i corrected it lowering the exposure to 25% , being 50% the middle neutral. or 5, also i think i abused of the sharp parameter on iphoto right?

Yes i liked your pics, also got the same feeling to make them from the same angle for client comparation, that is why i need a program that rotates the pics without creating the iphoto sideeffects.

I can´t take pics on Sunlight since i am Batman, the dark of the night. ( Also my windows are tainted on both cristals, inside and outside, since i live at a few steps from the sea, and too much sunlight for an aryan.

So tomorrow will test on 100 ISO, as already tried 200 and 50.

thanks
 
If you want to see some good photos of ties and other clothing, have a look at the "Malford of London" Tumblr. He uses good natural and diffuse lighting and has some really nice (in my opinion) pictures of ties and other pieces of clothing.

Here are a few links, as examples:

http://malfordoflondon.tumblr.com/post/108447963756/new-arrivals-harrods-luxury-silk-ties-handmade
http://malfordoflondon.tumblr.com/post/53685893616/just-in-50-off-charvet-handmade-silk-rep-ties
http://malfordoflondon.tumblr.com/post/53216891300/just-in-drakes-london-handmade-ties

His photos really give you a good idea as to the true colours of the ties and other items that he photographs.
 
Journeyman said:
If you want to see some good photos of ties and other clothing, have a look at the "Malford of London" Tumblr. He uses good natural and diffuse lighting and has some really nice (in my opinion) pictures of ties and other pieces of clothing.

Here are a few links, as examples:

http://malfordoflondon.tumblr.com/post/108447963756/new-arrivals-harrods-luxury-silk-ties-handmade
http://malfordoflondon.tumblr.com/post/53685893616/just-in-50-off-charvet-handmade-silk-rep-ties
http://malfordoflondon.tumblr.com/post/53216891300/just-in-drakes-london-handmade-ties

His photos really give you a good idea as to the true colours of the ties and other items that he photographs.
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He mixes both natural with difuse electric light?
Great pics, i don´t thing my camera is able to give that quality, right?

Ugly ties, horrendous, jajaja ubertacky
 
Low ISO would produce less noise, it should produce a cleaner image.
Henry, you probably are shooting with a dSLR with more than 4-6MP, so your camera's sensor can capture more data, Sarto's has to do more with less. I agree that natural light is the best kind of light to shoot with and it would help if he used a 18% grey card to neutralize the colour.

I also agree consistent angles are needed, but I think Sarto gets the point across just fine.
 
Looks like the malford guy is shooting with a dSLR and f/1.4 lens. I just looked at the metadata and I was correct. Sarto could get those detail shots with an SLR, no doubt.
EDIT: his aperture was f/4, he used his set up well.
 
Arnathor said:
Low ISO would produce less noise, it should produce a cleaner image.
Henry, you probably are shooting with a dSLR with more than 4-6MP, so your camera's sensor can capture more data, Sarto's has to do more with less. I agree that natural light is the best kind of light to shoot with and it would help if he used a 18% grey card to neutralize the colour.

I also agree consistent angles are needed, but I think Sarto gets the point across just fine.
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Are filters for this small cameras? if not, what is the grey card?

I only get red cards on my life.

mine is SLR or what ?
 
No, yours is essentially an antique. You'd call yours a point & shoot.
An 18% grey card is literally a grey piece of cardboard that you use to colour balance.
 
If you are not going to get photoshop, then no, don't bother.
I'd save up and buy a new/used dSLR (nothing ancient) and a 50mm f/1.4 lens.
 
Arnathor said:
If you are not going to get photoshop, then no, don't bother.
I'd save up and buy a new/used dSLR (nothing ancient) and a 50mm f/1.4 lens.
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How much? I want the signed camera by gheiani, the one used to scam half the Internet and all SF.

For the museum of tortures items.
 
That lens is $400 USD, and a decent entry level body might be $300+.
I haven't looked at anything not considered a professional camera in a long time.

I think you could get a decent set up for less than 1000e.
 
Arnathor said:
That lens is $400 USD, and a decent entry level body might be $300+.
I haven't looked at not considered a professional camera in a long time.

I think you could get a decent set up for less than 1000e.
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damn too much, if i am selling this way and with pictures of just the fabrics on mobile phone, why to do such investment that i could do to hire hitmen to beat up some assholes?
 
Arnathor said:
Dude, do whatever you'd like.
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I mean, honestly i don´t think having those pics i will sell much than i am selling now.

Per example Drakes does poorly made ties, most are cutted disquared, just sell a name and with ok pics, are not as good as the ones posted by Henry C.

I lack of the name, so i am close to reach my monthly limit, but that is my opinion. Don´t you?
 
Fair enough, but you asked me what it would cost and I'm telling you what I think it might cost.
 
I'm tired, I'm going to bed and I will be happy to talk photography and ties tomorrow.:fap:
 
Arnathor said:
Low ISO would produce less noise, it should produce a cleaner image.
Henry, you probably are shooting with a dSLR with more than 4-6MP, so your camera's sensor can capture more data, Sarto's has to do more with less. I agree that natural light is the best kind of light to shoot with and it would help if he used a 18% grey card to neutralize the colour.

I also agree consistent angles are needed, but I think Sarto gets the point across just fine.
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Sorry getting my terminology mixed up. What's it called, camera shake that I'm thinking of? When the shutter stays open on low ISO settings and the camera is hand held so the image isn't clear. That's what I meant. Tripod gets around that though I stopped using one because of the different angles I need to take images from.

I am using a DSLR but it's nothing too flash, an entry level 500d EOS with standard lense. Cost me $500-600 Aus brand new plus a couple of hundred dollars for the studio set up/lights off ebay, though it's dead easy to make a small light box yourself out of a big cardboard box and some white cardboard.
 
I use a stabilizer mode in soft mode.

Also other thing is that i work bespoke, but a few ties for demo, i only have tons of fabrics to choose but no ties made out of it for display.
 
Leitmotif said:


I approve of incantation
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who the fuck is their lead singer? maybe:

cookie-monster metal.webp
 
Hi friends,

This pics are done on other scenario, 100 ISO at this time ( On this new scenario, would be better 50? ), and 1 meter tube direct light, as the ones of the kitchens, not bulb low consume one as the other days.

No flash. This time i only added a bit of sharpness, only 15% compared to my last pics that needed tons of tweaking, imho i liked more the 1 day ones.

Opinions and what to improve and how? thanks

I think some are blurry.
Brown tweaked 100 iso1.webp
Yellow Brioni tweaked 1.webp
 
Arnathor said:
http://www.dressedwell.net/threads/sartodinapolis-tie-pocket-square-company.1827/page-4#post-92565

Whatever you did on this photo, do that again.
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Hi, I have found the camera option i was looking for to show the settings on each stored pic, also shows a graphic pictogram, i will learn how to use it.

Is there any quality jump on setting 2304 or 1600 pixels? Or is just to make the picture smaller? I chosen 2304, the biggest my camera allows.

The setings on the pics you liked were;

Manual setting of white, no auto. ( please give me any lesson to set this)

ISO 200.

Exposure at like 25, being 50 the 5 or middle. I do this to pre correct the flash light, as if i put it on the 50 or middle, with the flash gets a super white too flashy unusable picture.


I have found a 1986 Polaroid 30 cm tall only tripod for the Polaroid my mother bought me when i had 8 years old, was the most expensive camera, now those pics are getting rusted!, that i am going to use, but with it i can´t get same angles i can use holding by hand.

Brown tweaked 100 iso 2.webp
Swatches 1.webp

Thanks. Also another pic of yesterday on not very good settings and pics of most of my swatches.
 
Use the largest pixel setting possible. And I don't exactly understand what you wanted the lesson on? Setting the white balance manually?
 
Arnathor said:
Use the largest pixel setting possible. And I don't exactly understand what you wanted the lesson on? Setting the white balance manually?
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Yes, there is a setting of colour setting, that you have to focus a white sheet and then press the button.

I does automatically, so i do not know what parameters are affected if you use a too white or even a black card.
 
Hi friends,

More pics, this are on the scenario 2, this are with no flash and exposure at 5, neutral one. Macro flower mode, and just a bit of sharpeness added on Igent Iphoto. All are ISO 200 and tripod used, i wonder why some pictures ( not here) came blurry?
12 fold tweaked 1.webp
Carlo Bar linen tweaked 1.webp


Please rate the pics again, and review them.

The first tie is a 12 fold, not 7 but 12, handrolled .

12 fold no flash tweaked.webp
unlined untipped, note this ties can´t never be so perfect in shape as a lined 7 fold, so all the effort to make this as symmetric and perfect as possible on this one was exhausting.

See the 12 folds, perhaps one of the first times this is shown on the Internet, and last one is a Carlo Barbera linen,wool,silk, cashmere etc blend on 7 fold unlined handrolled.

This is switched to 50 ISO, looks better, but also got 6 same settings blurry pics, so ISO might do nothing on my case?
Carlo Barbera 7 fold tweak 50 iso.webp
 
The pics of the linen tie look better, much better than the pics of the other tie.

However, that may be partly because the fabrics are different and the silk is shinier.

If you can, use the same settings as you used for the linen tie to take some photos of other ties and post them so you can compare photos of different ties with the same camera settings.
 
Brioni yellow like tweaked.webp
12 fold, folds.webp
Arnathor said:
View attachment 5046 Is that a truer representation of the colour, Sarto?
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On the linen tie yes, on the shiny silk, looks darker than on real life. Journeyman is right that is due to the fabric, it seems i got better results on matte fabrics that absorbs light.

I post here one with flash, so you see the difference on the other you asked me that is with no flash.

What can i do to represent better is true color?

Should i turn of the digital stabilizer? I am using tripod now.

2 pic i am posting is
12 fold not tweaked..webp
for Arnathor, this is the raw pic, any tweaking here. What magic can you do here?
12 fold flash on.webp
 
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