The War With ISIS/ISIL

fxh said:
Banality of evil - is about the fact that Hitler, Pol Pot, etc don't have horns and thousand yard stare like $cientologists*, but that they are "normal" people. Doing normal tasks. These days its making a great spreadsheet - of all those to be put to death. Or a "scientific" study of torture. Or making sure people sign the register before buying a gun and going postal. Ordinary everyday banality.

The outliers are the ISIS barbarians. The majority of barbarians go about their spreadsheets and love their families, kids and pets. Oh and their god.

* well maybe they do stare like $cientologists.
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I like this man. He deserves the custom title "arbiter of banality".
 
This is a fantastic article on Isis in the Atlantic. Its long though, so make sure you have your beverages at hand:

What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic

What ISIS Really Wants
The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.

Graeme Wood March 2015
 
how the fuck do three Anglo-Pakistani girls just have the cash to jet off to Turkey? good luck to them. i hope they like the brigade they are to be attached to as cook/fuck dolls first class
 
Thruth said:
how the fuck do three Anglo-Pakistani girls just have the cash to jet off to Turkey? good luck to them. i hope they like the brigade they are to be attached to as cook/fuck dolls first class
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Like I said... it's false flag. It's why it doesn't make sense. Stupids believe anything.
 
OfficePants said:
Like I said... it's false flag. It's why it doesn't make sense. Stupids believe anything.
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True, they are the idiots. Was listening to talk radio this afternoon and they had Zuhdi Jasser talking

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser | American Islamic Forum for Democracy

He is definitely not a dem as he doesn't have too much good to say about Obama.

The interesting point he made was that these news organizations need to stop calling these idiots American or British because they don't see themselves that way. They want to believe in a pan-Muslim world. So appealing to young Muslim-whatever-the-country will not work if the message is hey young Muslim, we can create jobs so you can work. The message is "hey fuckhead, this is why the western secular world is better than a shariah-based caliphate"
 
Opening your legs ten times a day for ten different men is a job.

Playing Russian roulette with others all day thinking you're in a Hollywood crusader movie and getting sloppy tenths from said woman is also a profession.
 
Fwiffo said:
Opening your legs ten times a day for ten different men is a job.

Playing Russian roulette with others all day thinking you're in a Hollywood crusader movie and getting sloppy tenths from said woman is also a profession.
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Neither are very good at it.
 
Here is a conspiracy theory for Russell Street Russell Street That I have come up with.

British intelligence has been monitoring the electronic communications of the previous teen friend of the girls who went over as well as those of another idiot who went over to be a ISIL bride in 2013.

There was communication between these three idiots and the other two.

I think they let them go so they would become fuck dolls to create outrage.
 
Hey, millennials need a purpose in life too. I haven't looked through the ISIS recruitment lit, but if they just have apublished address for random kids to show up at... shouldn't somebody do something about that?
Or do you just get off the plane and ask anyone where ISIS is and they calmly point you in the right direction?

Yeah, this is utter hokum.
 
I have to do a presentation on emergency preparedness topics at work. I dug through a few photographs that I thought would motivate people to keep vigilant: the blackout in the northeast of 2003, Hurricane Katrina, to a lesser extent Sandy. Maybe even the July 7 London bombings but obviously the massive one is September 11. Searching on Google Images for "September 11" brings back painful memories of that time - as in I knew exactly where I was and what I was doing that day more than 13 years later. (I'm actually not going to use those pictures as it still elicits some raw emotion in me).

I'm not religious at all but I pray to God we don't have to go through that ordeal all over again with this caliphate.
 
I caught a brief snippet on the radio news in the truck and I'm not sure if it is true but apparently Al Sharpton and Betty Shabbazz have threatened to blow up Mall of America, West Edmonton Mall and another mall in the UK.

If true, this has ratcheted up terrorism in our own backyards!
 
Iraqi forces retreat from Ramadi as Islamic State advances

"Most Iraqi troops have abandoned their positions in Ramadi as Islamic State militants have advanced further into the city, officials have told the BBC. They said IS militants had taken control of a compound that was used as the provincial military command centre. The prime minister called on troops not to desert their positions, while telling Shia militias to prepare to deploy to the heavily Sunni area. IS claimed to hold the entire city in a message posted online. The message, which has not been independently verified, said militants had captured the 8th Brigade army base as well as tanks and missile launchers."
 
I honestly think the best is to leave this in the hands of Iranians, Syrians, and Russians. Europeans are a bunch of pussies nowadays and Americans don't really know what to do, for some reason we always support the bad boys and then we are like 'oops! i didt it again!"
 
Leitmotif said:
I honestly think the best is to leave this in the hands of Iranians, Syrians, and Russians. Europeans are a bunch of pussies nowadays and Americans don't really know what to do, for some reason we always support the bad boys and then we are like 'oops! i didt it again!"
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Leave it to the arabs. They need a war to decide if they want to stay in the 7th century or the 21st.
 
Iraqi forces lack will to fight


"In addition to Ramadi, this week IS militants also seized the last Syrian government-controlled border crossing with Iraq and, in Syria itself, the ancient city of Palmyra. Some observers said IS now controls 50% of Syria's entire territory - as well as a third of Iraq."

How does a government, no wait, a nation wake up one day and realise one half of your country is occupied and inaccessible? Let's all go back and have another baklava, a chai tea and smoke shisha?
 
IS plants mines around Palmyra

It doesn't really say whether it's explosives or defensive mines. As someone who graduated with a degree in Classics, it'll be a shame to see an icon of Roman might go away.
 
Russell Street said:
I'm being sarcastic, to mock the alarmism we are fed. Here's more...
I'm sure the government found and prevented one or more terror attacks!
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They said 7000 extra police officers on duty for the NYPD.

Honestly I thought Obama would call the air strikes off today. It's futile to keep it going and he's not willing to commit more. As someone who lived through Al-Qaeda and Sept 11, it feels rather stupid we crushed and killed one group of radicals and their talisman only to trade it for an even worse group and a new figurehead for evil.
 
Fwiffo said:
Honestly I thought Obama would call the air strikes off today. It's futile to keep it going and he's not willing to commit more. As someone who lived through Al-Qaeda and Sept 11, it feels rather stupid we crushed and killed one group of radicals and their talisman only to trade it for an even worse group and a new figurehead for evil.
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I think that's the problem.

Unfortunately, the US invading Afghanistan and then Iraq played into the hands of Al Qaeda and other extremist organisations, as they were able to fire up the "clash of civilisations" rhetoric and build it into a barbaric, overbearing US -vs- pure Islamist theocracy argument. Of course, that's a ridiculous strawman, but it plays well.

It would have been much better if the US had not invaded Afghanistan and it would have been much, much, much, much better if the US had never invaded Iraq. That was an incredibly stupid decision - it was stupid then and it looks far, far worse in hindsight - and George W Bush should be excoriated for it. It was one of the most catastrophic foreign policy decisions by the US since Bay of Pigs and Bush Jr and his presidency should be remembered very poorly as a consequence. It diverted resources and attention from Afghanistan, it cost the US vast, vast amounts of money, it provided a ready breeding ground for Islamic terrorism and fanaticism, and it provided an easy target for radical muslims to point at and to say, "See - the US will be coming for you next. We must fight to stop them!"
 
You have it all wrong Journeyman. The invasions created big profits for war companies and isis and al qaeda are sponsored by U.S. agencies. You have to create the 'problem' before you can sell the 'solution'.
 
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