Corduroy

florisgreen

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I am going to do dark brown first. Extremely thick and heavy, and they will be made with double forward pleats, made for braces, fishtail and no cuffs. They will be specially made to be worn with my shawl cardigans. I will also order a dark brown donegal tweed trousers, but so far my tailor only has 17 oz tweeds, but l asked him to find 22oz for trousers.

By the time l get these two trousers the winter will be half over, so i'll get the bone, golden/orange and purple next year. The golden/orange is stunning in person and very classic, however the purple is pretty silly in a traditional cut, but it will be fun so l am doing it.
Very nice project, lucky choice of colours. Already got something done?

I totally agree, cord has to be thick and heavy, and cut and fit have to be wide and relaxed, even though it is valid for any fabric to me.
 

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Doesn't the 20% sale bring it down to $230? Not a bad price. What do you get for $230 these days? It's quarter lined which is kinda strange as they quote the weight as "cool weather". It will expand your range to wear it a bit in your climate so that is not a bad thing I guess. It has them, the patches, which is nice. Healthy lapels. It is decent China-made with some hand passes.

Slim pickings on fleabay for NWT corduroy jackets. Someone who wears a 56/46 can get a cashco taupe Zegna and a tan Boglioli K in the $200 to $300 range. The discount luxury men's site have nothing. Lauren Ralph Lauren which is not RL costs more than that.

Its about perfect for the alcohol English professor or seventies Robert Redford journalist look. also looks like something that might (gasp) work with jeans and an OCBD.

I guess it’s been so long since I’ve worn officewear that my interest just isn’t really there right now. I have a baby camel sports coat in the same color. Maybe if I can offload that one, I’ll grab the needle cord jacket.
 

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Very nice project, lucky choice of colours. Already got something done?

I totally agree, cord has to be thick and heavy, and cut and fit have to be wide and relaxed, even though it is valid for any fabric to me.
I called my tailor the other day. It has been a long time. The trial pair hasn't even been started yet. It's been months. Now we are in lockdown again for the forth time.

Yes, corduroy needs to be relaxed and thick, otherwise it is not in the true character of corduroy trousers. Lightweight cords and jean cut are a waste of time, a total joke imo.
 

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Is it in mustard yellow?
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Tie length opinion too irrelevant.
Of course you (and everyone) are free to wear your ties as long as you like, it's just my opinion: as it always is in matter of menswear, as there's not the TRUTH, but just opinions and tastes. Try though to tie your tie in order to have it 5 to 10cm shorter and I think you'll recognize yourself the improvent.

By the way, the tie matches very good with the suit.
 
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Of course you (and everyone) are free to wear your ties as long as you like, it's just my opinion: as it always is in matter of menswear, as there's not the TRUTH, but just opinions and tastes. Try though to tie your tie in order to have it 5 to 10cm shorter and I think you'll recognize yourself the improvent.

By the way, the tie matches very good with the suit.

While I am fully aware that the accepted norm is to have the tip of the tie barely touching the waistband, I think it's mostly a matter of taste. Here's Signore Agnelli, whom we can all agree had a pretty decent sense of style, doing whatever he fancied wrt tie length.


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I think the point has been made ad nauseam in this forum. Shall we let it rest, agreeing to disagree perhaps, and accepting that it's not such a big deal? I don't think it's necessary to point out every time someone has a tie length that goes beyond the waistband line.
 

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Here's Signore Agnelli, whom we can all agree had a pretty decent sense of style, doing whatever he fancied wrt tie length.

Somebody would call it sense of "sprezzatura", to me it's just unforgivably sloppy, the more that he once wore the tie very long and the next time ridiculously short with tie penor stuck in the trousers.

I think the point has been made ad nauseam in this forum. Shall we let it rest, agreeing to disagree perhaps, and accepting that it's not such a big deal? I don't think it's necessary to point out every time someone has a tie length that goes beyond the waistband line.

Sorry, I can't agree. As I said, everybody can wear what he likes the way he likes, but I have the right to criticise what I dislike: that's ultimately the reason of such a forum.
 

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Somebody would call it sense of "sprezzatura", to me it's just unforgivably sloppy, the more that he once wore the tie very long and the next time ridiculously short with tie penor stuck in the trousers.



Sorry, I can't agree. As I said, everybody can wear what he likes the way he likes, but I have the right to criticise what I dislike: that's ultimately the reason of such a forum.

While I actually agree with you on proper tie length, I think we can keep the criticism within agreed upon threads. If someone posts an outfit in WAYWT, it’s assumed they are looking for a complete critique. If someone posts a pic of their cord suit in the corduroy thread then starting a tie length derailment might be uncalled for.
 

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Not many here need a lecture on tie length in any forum (though I do agree with Pimpernel Smith Pimpernel Smith as to when it might be appropriate or not). One might also think that if belinmad belinmad changes his posture he may have less tie penor. If it is tie penor, it is small tie penor in scale to begin with. I really don't think he gives a shit, which I can get behind, figuratively but not literally, mind.

I've also held to the common practice of not pointing out dressing tips about anyone's clothing unless I've posted pics of myself. Tit for tat. Penor for penor. That is why I have become inured to monk boot hate from big and little daddies.

So step up, one measly fit pic and then you are as free as the next guy to point out tie penor infractions. belinmad belinmad has. Pimps has. Even Arnathor Arnathor has FFS. You have to dig back in time.

Hell, even Sarto when he was here posted fit pics of many hand passes.

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While I actually agree with you on proper tie length, I think we can keep the criticism within agreed upon threads. If someone posts an outfit in WAYWT, it’s assumed they are looking for a complete critique. If someone posts a pic of their cord suit in the corduroy thread then starting a tie length derailment might be uncalled for.
I respect your opinion, though I dissent: it's not a derailment to speak about tie length, it's pertinent, as we talk about style. If you post an outfit, it will be judged in its wholeness.
To be honest the necktie is a matter I especially care, as I see so many abominations which distort the character of a great accessory.

By the way, my judgement is mostly positive: I praised colours and matching.
 

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I respect your opinion, though I dissent: it's not a derailment to speak about tie length, it's pertinent, as we talk about style. If you post an outfit, it will be judged in its wholeness.
To be honest the necktie is a matter I especially care, as I see so many abominations which distort the character of a great accessory.

By the way, my judgement is mostly positive: I praised colours and matching.

I didn't post an outfit. Someone asked about suit color, and I sent a picture of it I had at hand as a reply. I wasn't asking or inviting commentary on it, and the tie was not the point of it, by any means.

Also, as Thruth Thruth suggested, I think it would add a lot of credibility to your commentary on other people's outfits if you posted pictures of your own style, so we know where things are coming from. Calling Agnelli "unforgivably sloppy" is laughable, at best, unless you dress like Prince Philip, or similar.
 

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I didn't post an outfit. Someone asked about suit color, and I sent a picture of it I had at hand as a reply. I wasn't asking or inviting commentary on it, and the tie was not the point of it, by any means.

Also, as Thruth Thruth suggested, I think it would add a lot of credibility to your commentary on other people's outfits if you posted pictures of your own style, so we know where things are coming from. Calling Agnelli "unforgivably sloppy" is laughable, at best, unless you dress like Prince Philip, or similar.
I've posted a lot of items I own and wear in several threads, but it's not the point: even if I wouldn't, I had the right to express my opinion, that's the purpose of a forum.
I always try to be fair and unbiased in my comments and rather underline the positive, unlike many others here that just criticise because something is worn by a person they hate. I often praised your outfits too, but you seem to take it very personally with the slightest criticism.
Don't worry, from now on I will completely ignore you.
 

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I've posted a lot of items I own and wear in several threads, but it's not the point: even if I wouldn't, I had the right to express my opinion, that's the purpose of a forum.
I always try to be fair and unbiased in my comments and rather underline the positive, unlike many others here that just criticise because something is worn by a person they hate. I often praised your outfits too, but you seem to take it very personally with the slightest criticism.
Don't worry, from now on I will completely ignore you.
You are free to post whatever opinion you want. But don't confuse the point. Posting items you've bought and will wear is different than you posting yourself wearing them. That was the point. Don't be surprised to be called out if you havre no fit pics but are correcting others. That's how things go on menswear fora.
 
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