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Didn't indigenous people have first access to vaccines because they were vulnerable?
Carving out a supply of vaccines from the territory stock is easy. Working with hundreds of decentralised tribal health councils and transporting vaccine (while maintaining its integrity) out to some of the most remote communities on the planet, not so easy or fast.
 

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Carving out a supply of vaccines from the territory stock is easy. Working with hundreds of decentralised tribal health councils and transporting vaccine (while maintaining its integrity) out to some of the most remote communities on the planet, not so easy or fast.
I can’t imagine what it’s like trying to organize cooler trucks for vaccines across the Aussie outback
 

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I can’t imagine what it’s like trying to organize cooler trucks for vaccines across the Aussie outback

Seriously! That is a logistics challenge on steroids. Thankfully they can call on the army reserve up there, which is full of aboriginal volunteers who know the roads and are really good at what they do.

I hope their portable coolers are better than the ones we have here.
 

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Seriously! That is a logistics challenge on steroids. Thankfully they can call on the army reserve up there, which is full of aboriginal volunteers who know the roads and are really good at what they do.

I hope their portable coolers are better than the ones we have here.
The army oh no!!!
 

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Not sure about the UK or Africa, but in most places I’ve worked it is sort of frowned upon for PhDs working in healthcare to promote themselves as ‘Doctor’ since it implies they are an MD.
He's entitled to call himself a doctor as he's credentialed to a Ph.D. He's not presented himself as an MD/House Doctor or General Practitioner. His qualifications speak for themselves:

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In his specialisations, he will likely be much more knowledgeable that any MD or GP.

His Youtube channel has been around since 2008 and the 9.6 million views a month he gets is primarily, according to Wiki, down to views from the USA.

Case in point in the video, the collapse in cases in Japan. Several factors could be at play from genetics, mutation of the virus, diet, healthier population to begin with, vaccine roll out and the prescribed use of the therapeutic, Ivermectin.

We know from the official ''fact checkers'', who tend be designated journalists, a profession that one needs no credentials for that Ivermectin in a horse dewormer and not for human use. Antibiotics are also used on horses, but we don't call them horse medicine.

If subsequently, it's proven Ivermectin is an element and perhaps an important one in the collapse in cases, then the establishment, the political class, big tech, the MSM and elements within the pharma and medical professions have failed in the task of advising and protecting the public with valid Covid health information, quite possibly deliberately.
 

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Not sure about the UK or Africa, but in most places I’ve worked it is sort of frowned upon for PhDs working in healthcare to promote themselves as ‘Doctor’ since it implies they are an MD.

It is frowned upon here too but frankly by only those who are precious.

Here, surgeons are loath to call themselves doctors as they consider that title for general practitioners. They'd rather be addressed as 'Mr'/ 'Ms' etc.

Although I know someone, an OBE , no doubt, who has a honorific doctor title and uses Dr. in their correspondence, twitter, etc. That is criminal.
 

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It is frowned upon here too but frankly by only those who are precious.

Here, surgeons are loath to call themselves doctors as they consider that title for general practitioners. They'd rather be addressed as 'Mr'/ 'Ms' etc.

Although I know someone, an OBE , no doubt, who has a honorific doctor title and uses Dr. in their correspondence, twitter, etc. That is criminal.

Enforcement of social norms runs pretty strong in the medical fields - especially by up-tight, old school doctors. I’ve known more than a few who refuse to call DVMs Doctor, though that’s generally acceptable.

The head of our state lab is a brilliant pharmacologist, who wouldn’t use doctor but readily adopted professor once she rated that in her side-gig guest lecturing at the university.

Meanwhile, the whole thing between surgeons and GPs goes back a few centuries.

As dumb as it all is, a nurse calling themselves doctor certainly stands out as an outlier who wants attention.
 

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It is frowned upon here too but frankly by only those who are precious....
Yes, correct. We all know that a PhD in English Literature isn't a GP.

In Italy for example, my accountant has a Doctor designation. I don't call him out for a being a pretend MD/GP/House Doctor do I?
As dumb as it all is, a nurse calling themselves doctor certainly stands out as an outlier who wants attention.
Rigid social norms aside, that's very disingenuous and snooty. Many GP's I've had the pleasure of being diagnosed by I wouldn't rate better than horse doctors. And that may be being disingenuous to horse doctors as to qualify as a vet takes a lot longer that being a GP in the UK, or did.

Here's the trailer to Dr John Campbell:



Think you will agree, no misrepresentation there.

And here's his Youtube introduction/description write-up, 100% transparent with appropriate disclaimer:

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From my perspective, Dr John Campbell is sound and professional, committed to the scientific method and isn't passing himself off as a MD/GP/House Doctor.

So what's the problem?
 

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I have a Ph.D. if I called myself Dr. I would be laughed out of any credible room. To use the title is either a sign of pomposity or a misrepresentation. The guy is a nurse with a ph.d., and that’s how he should present himself.
 

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He earned his Phd just as I assume you earned yours. It isn't a misrepresentation to me at all but to each their own.

One of my buddies I went to school with is a doctor, MD. Frankly, he isn't too bright. I know he repeated a year in medical school, which he barely passed and was close to the bottom of his class. Also, took an extra year to finish his masters.

In the eyes of society, he is a Doc and an arrogant one at that, the arrogance that comes with being a doctor. I know I (and my loved ones) wouldn't want to be 'seen' by him as I imagine he'd be mediocre at best but he is a doctor.
 

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I have a Ph.D. if I called myself Dr. I would be laughed out of any credible room. To use the title is either a sign of pomposity or a misrepresentation. The guy is a nurse with a ph.d., and that’s how he should present himself.
There is no misrepresentation, he has represented himself 100% accurately and transparently, if you cared to check and without any pomposity whatsoever.

As stated, my accountant in Italy has a Dr. designation and introduces himself in every conversation, meeting and email with the prefix. It's semantics, nothing to get excited about.

In the UK someone with a Ph.D has the Doctor title and can use it. That might be a problem for you and your culture and/or work culture. But that's a cultural reality that simply is. Both ways.

For me it's quite simple, if someone has a designated and professional status and designation, recognized by official bodies whether that's a PhD in cleaning shit houses, or intergalactic time travel, they can use the title. Of which the good (Dr) John Campbell has used rather sparingly and is in the nursing discipline. I consider nursing a profession, don't you?

Here's a tip for good karma in the future, don't in the English vernacular, dish the nursing profession as low status. Because there will come a time for you, or a member of your family, when the only person keeping them or you from meeting your maker is the diligence and professionalism of a lowly paid nurse on the graveyard shift. All the correct Dr pronouns will all fall silent then, because the hospital doctors will be on their rounds and the 9-5 MD/GP/House Doctor won't be around to help.
 
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Big in Japan:

I haven't watched this video and I'm also not really interested, but coincidentally I watched most of his videos on wound treatment and healing about a year ago in relation to a surgery of a friend. Those can't be too bad because I talked about this with one of the doctors in the hospital and he asked whether I'm a colleague. Of course, as a nurse teacher, he should know a bit about wounds.
 

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There is no misrepresentation, he has represented himself 100% accurately and transparently, if you cared to check and without any pomposity whatsoever.

As stated, my accountant in Italy has a Dr. designation and introduces himself in every conversation, meeting and email with the prefix. It's semantics, nothing to get excited about.

In the UK someone with a Ph.D has the Doctor title and can use it. That might be a problem for you and your culture and/or work culture. But that's a cultural reality that simply is. Both ways.

For me it's quite simple, if someone has a designated and professional status and designation, recognized by official bodies whether that's a PhD in cleaning shit houses, or intergalactic time travel, they can use the title. Of which the good (Dr) John Campbell has used rather sparingly and is in the nursing discipline. I consider nursing a profession, don't you?

Here's a tip for good karma in the future, don't in the English vernacular, dish the nursing profession as low status. Because there will come a time for you, or a member of your family, when the only person keeping them or you from meeting your maker is the diligence and professionalism of a lowly paid nurse on the graveyard shift. All the correct Dr pronouns will all fall silent then, because the hospital doctors will be on their rounds and the 9-5 MD/GP/House Doctor won't be around to help.

I never dished the nursing profession, Dr Pompous.
 

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"Right now, our doctors and nurses are reporting the vast majority of their patients are unvaccinated or have not yet received a booster dose. We can all do our part to help reduce the strain on our hospital systems by getting vaccinated, making an appointment to get a booster dose, and continuing to take precautions to keep ourselves and loved ones safe,"

Unvaccinated and have not yet received a booster dose is the same?
 

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Good thing I'm only seeing French, Dutch, and Germans next week.

"Walking a dog is allowed within 500 meters (yards) from people’s homes."

I can't walk my dog for more than 500m but I can go to work more than 500m.
 
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"From Dec. 1, wearing a face mask will once again be mandatory in enclosed spaces; a digital certificate proving vaccination or recovery from the coronavirus must be shown to enter restaurants, cinemas and hotels; and even inoculated people must have a negative test to visit hospitals, elderly care homes, sports events and bars and discos."

I need a negative test to go to events, bars, clubs, senior homes, and hospitals even if I am inoculated? What is the point of being vaccinated?

Also if I think I'm positive, how do I get to the hospital to get my test if I need a negative test?
 

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"From Dec. 1, wearing a face mask will once again be mandatory in enclosed spaces; a digital certificate proving vaccination or recovery from the coronavirus must be shown to enter restaurants, cinemas and hotels; and even inoculated people must have a negative test to visit hospitals, elderly care homes, sports events and bars and discos."

I need a negative test to go to events, bars, clubs, senior homes, and hospitals even if I am inoculated? What is the point of being vaccinated?

Also if I think I'm positive, how do I get to the hospital to get my test if I need a negative test?
Maybe you should do a podcast?
 

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“Restaurants, bars and nightclubs will have to close at 10 p.m. from Friday, while the public consumption of alcohol will be prohibited and on-site consumption of food will be banned in shopping centers.”

Curfew didn’t work before. Why would it work now?
 

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Aboriginal elders, health organisations and frontline workers in the Northern Territory’s Covid outbreak have lashed out at false information about public health measures on social media, with the NT chief minister blaming the misinformation on “tinfoil hat wearing tossers, sitting in their parents’ basements in Florida”.

 

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shit is poppin off


 

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I don't know guys, 500x more sounds like it could be a lot more. guess we'll wait for a video from the nurse on you tube to tell us about how an outside study facility had a piece of paper to go missing to completely invalidate any and all research and information we could learn from this new development.

 

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It's okay. Austria and Slovakia are already in lockdown. The most effective weapon as taught to us by the Chinese is already deployed.
 
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