Roe vs. Wade Overturned By The Supreme Court. No more abobo's in religious land.

[Sammy Ambrose]

Seriously, as a race, we don't deserve to carry on living. Aliens should come over and just nuke us to oblivion.

Another option is for schools to put religious texts under the same microscope as other books, and have them taught by history teachers and not as religious education.

 

[Dropbear]

Think Christianity Is Anti-Abortion? Think Again

Extremists have sought to use religion as a tool to dominate women’s bodies, but Christians have a long history of being in favor of abortion rights

www.rollingstone.com

 

[güero]

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

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What's obviously missing from the debate over bodily autonomy, which when it comes to vaccines is also hypocritically absent, is when this thing, foetus becomes a human life and has rights too. A right for life i.e. viable for life outside of the body. Or does a baby have no rights up until and perhaps beyond the moment of birth?

 

[Dropbear]

What's obviously missing from the debate over bodily autonomy, which when it comes to vaccines is also hypocritically absent, is when this thing, foetus becomes a human life and has rights too. A right for life i.e. viable for life outside of the body. Or does a baby have no rights up until and perhaps beyond the moment of birth?

Lol. That is exactly what Roe v Wade codified.

Roe v. Wade Made Viability the Key to Abortion Law

A half-century ago, science and legal precedent led the Supreme Court to make fetal viability the key standard in abortion law.

www.wsj.com

 

[Dropbear]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/03/supreme-court-trust/

 

[Grand Potentate]

The Democrats Have Been Embarrassingly Useless on Abortion

For months, the Democratic Party leadership knew the Supreme Court was preparing to gut Roe v. Wade. When it happened, they sprang into action and immediately did nothing.

jacobin.com

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

The Democrats Have Been Embarrassingly Useless on Abortion

For months, the Democratic Party leadership knew the Supreme Court was preparing to gut Roe v. Wade. When it happened, they sprang into action and immediately did nothing.

jacobin.com

They did have the position that it should be ''safe, legal and rare.'' Which I thoroughly agree and concur with. Abortion is not contraception. When they pump the woman up with hormones a couple of days before they vacuum the foetus out, it's not an emancipating act or process.

Some of the responses from European politicians as well, countries where they have stricter abortion laws than the USA. What's that about?

 

[Grand Potentate]

They did have the position that it should be ''safe, legal and rare.''

the defacto republicans did yes.

Which I thoroughly agree and concur with

i can't imagine why

When they pump the woman up with hormones a couple of days before they vacuum the foetus out, it's not an emancipating act or process.

are you high on meth?

Some of the responses from European politicians as well, countries where they have stricter abortion laws than the USA. What's that about?

i don't know what you're asking here.

 

[Dropbear]

Some of the responses from European politicians as well, countries where they have stricter abortion laws than the USA. What's that about?

What, like the death penalty? Half the states here are more restrictive than the Middle East.

In what country in Europe can get get a $10,000 bounty for reporting someone assisting a person to get an abortion?

https://reproductiverights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/European-abortion-law-a-comparative-review.pdf

 

[belinmad]

What, like the death penalty? Half the states here are more restrictive than the Middle East.

In what country in Europe can get get a $10,000 bounty for reporting someone assisting a person to get an abortion?

https://reproductiverights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/European-abortion-law-a-comparative-review.pdf

you gotta understand that most of the things that Pimpy claims are not actual facts, but headline non-sense he consumes from fringe right media.

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

Calm down our kid...

France has limits on abortion at 14 weeks. That's less than many States. So it's rather hypocritical of Macron with comments as his nation has more restrictive access to abortion.

In the UK the law on abortion is set by the individual nations. Again that makes soon to be gone Boris, rather hypocritical.

As for the abortion procedure itself, it isn't a right of passage, or pleasant. And in some cases, it does involve pumping the woman up with hormones and something very akin to a vacuum head.

 

[Dropbear]

I don’t know anywhere in Europe you can get a bounty for turning in your neighbor who drove their pregnant daughter out of state to dget an abortion after being raped.

 

[Dropbear]

As for the abortion procedure itself, it isn't a right of passage, or pleasant. And in some cases, it does involve pumping the woman up with hormones and something very akin to a vacuum head.

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

I do have first hand knowledge as my missus had to have an abortion as the twins she was carrying had to be aborted because they were all very wrong in there. And it's not a rite of passage, it's not a glorious act of body autonomy, it's very, very sad with a procedure as I described it.

 

[Dropbear]

I do have first hand knowledge as my missus had to have an abortion as the twins she was carrying had to be aborted because they were all very wrong in there.

That’s secondhand knowledge. I’m glad your wife is ok and that she lived somewhere that respected her body autonomy.

And it's not a rite of passage, it's not a glorious act of body autonomy, it's very, very sad with a procedure as I described it.

Yep, you totally slayed that straw man.

Meanwhile…


Roe was based on the 14th Amendment, but 2.0 could look to 13:

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...court-strategy-based-13th-amendment-rcna36309

 

[Grand Potentate]

SCOTUS Justices Prayed With Evangelical Group Whose Legal Brief Was Cited to Overturn Roe Says Christian Activist: Report

A veteran Christian activist who works for a legal organization that has appeared on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s list of anti-LGBTQ hate groups was caught on a hot mic bragging that she and the organization she works for prayed with the Justices inside the U.S. Supreme Court, according to...

www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com

who could have possibly foreseen this???

 

[Dropbear]

Not exactly bold and decisive leadership, but still. Positive move:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/08/biden-outline-new-steps-aimed-bolstering-abortion-rights/

 

[Grand Potentate]

Pregnant Texas woman driving in HOV lane told police her unborn child counted as a passenger

Brandy Bottone of Plano says she received a citation for driving alone in the two-or-more...

www.chron.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

i'm sure Pimpernel Smith is very closely following the case of the 10 year old Indiana girl who was raped and had to cross state lines to get an abortion.

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

i'm sure Pimpernel Smith is very closely following the case of the 10 year old Indiana girl who was raped and had to cross state lines to get an abortion.

The point is, she got one. Appreciate the individual States are large and one might have to undergo geographical dislocation to get one, but the current situation in your nation is not a blanket ban on abortion as your MSM and our media here has portrayed it.

My position has been clear: I am against late term abortion for other than medical reasons and abortion as a rite of passage/alternative to effective contraception is a horrid and unethical way to market it to young women. That's my personal opinion.

 

[Grand Potentate]

The point is, she got one.

is it, really? is that really the point here of the struggle this 10 year old rape victim went through?

Appreciate the individual States are large and one might have to undergo geographical dislocation to get one

ah we've moved on to appreciation.

but the current situation in your nation is not a blanket ban on abortion as your MSM and our media here has portrayed it.

of course not a blanket ban. more of a bath towel sized ban.

My position has been clear: I am against late term abortion for other than medical reasons and abortion as a rite of passage/alternative to effective contraception is a horrid and unethical way to market it to young women. That's my personal opinion.

you opinion in this case certainly seems to paint a wildly different opinion.

 

[Dropbear]

The point is, she got one. Appreciate the individual States are large and one might have to undergo geographical dislocation to get one, but the current situation in your nation is not a blanket ban on abortion as your MSM and our media here has portrayed it.

My position has been clear: I am against late term abortion for other than medical reasons and abortion as a rite of passage/alternative to effective contraception is a horrid and unethical way to market it to young women. That's my personal opinion.

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

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That's my opinion and I'm welcome to it. Thanks.

 

[Dropbear]

Confirmation of Ohio rape victim's abortion story forces retreat from some conservative doubters

The case has become a microcosm of the fight over abortion rights.

www.politico.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

Texas hospitals delaying care over abortion law, letter says

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Some hospitals in Texas have reportedly refused to treat patients with major pregnancy complications for fear of violating the state's abortion ban, the Texas Medical Association said in a letter this week.

apnews.com

Texas Medical Association says hospitals are refusing to treat women with pregnancy complications

The non-profit organization wrote that it has received complaints alleging hospital...

www.chron.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

 

[Grand Potentate]

 

[Dropbear]

What really drives anti-abortion beliefs? Research suggests it's a matter of sexual strategies

Some reasons people oppose abortion seem to be at odds with other positions they hold. Evolutionary social science points to a surprising motivation for anti-abortion attitudes.

theconversation.com

 

[Fwiffo]

Samuel Alito: Top US judge mocks world leaders over abortion ruling

Samuel Alito dismisses Boris Johnson and others who condemned the move to restrict abortion.

www.bbc.com

When did the justice system become so opinionated a politicised in western countries?

 

[Grand Potentate]

Samuel Alito: Top US judge mocks world leaders over abortion ruling

Samuel Alito dismisses Boris Johnson and others who condemned the move to restrict abortion.

www.bbc.com

When did the justice system become so opinionated a politicised in western countries?

Is this sarcasm?

 

[Fwiffo]

Is this sarcasm?

No. I don't know why judges and bureaucrats need to be celebrities and lightning rods on certain issues. Aren't they part of the machinery to keep the government and state running...preferably in the background?

 

[Grand Potentate]

When Can Dying Patients Get a Lifesaving Abortion? These Hospital Panels Will Now Decide.

Abortion bans force ethics committees to determine when a pregnancy is lethal enough to justify termination.

slate.com

Pregnancy death panels

 

[güero]

Georgia residents can now claim embryos as dependents on state taxes

Taxpayers who have "an unborn child (or children) with a detectable human heartbeat" as of July 20 can get $3,000 for each unborn child.

www.nbcnews.com

Excellent trolling

 

[Dropbear]

Kansas Abortion Amendment Election Results

See full results and maps from the Kansas primary elections.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

Kansas Abortion Amendment Election Results

See full results and maps from the Kansas primary elections.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Dropbear]

Sure, we shouldn’t be having local referendums on universal rights and freedoms but this is going to scare the shit of out of the GOP.

Even in the reddest of states, majorities support body autonomy. It’s a loosing issue outside the fundi base

It’s also an issue that will drive people to the polls. Hold a referendum on Election Day and the Dems will get a carry-on bump in votes from people showing up to vote against the e anti choice crowd.

 

[Dropbear]

It’s Not Just Kansas—Voters Nationwide Are Pro-Choice

The Kansas landslide is a reminder that, even in red states, voters will protect abortion rights.

www.thenation.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

 

[Dropbear]

Fucking evil fucks.