The Biden Presidency

I must admit, I think the impeachment of Trump is a mistake, I would have just let the clown disappear into oblivion.

I think everyone agrees that his conduct met the standards of an impeachable offense, but I’m also not so sure it was a good strategic move. Might be better to leave it to the courts, rather than add more fuel to the conspiracy theorists trying to delegitimize the government.

From what I’ve heard from the legal folks, criminal charges will be a difficult case to make and he would probably be aquited. Whereas the civil law suits against him, for his role in the attack, are likely to win (OJ Simpson, again).
 
I think everyone agrees that his conduct met the standards of an impeachable offense, but I’m also not so sure it was a good strategic move. Might be better to leave it to the courts, rather than add more fuel to the conspiracy theorists trying to delegitimize the government.

From what I’ve heard from the legal folks, criminal charges will be a difficult case to make and he would probably be aquited. Whereas the civil law suits against him, for his role in the attack, are likely to win (OJ Simpson, again).

That's exactly my concern. A large constituency of Trump supporters are rabid conspiracy theorists and this will potentially throw fuel on the fire.

Will this impeachment, if successful stop Trump from ever to holding office again?
 
That's exactly my concern. A large constituency of Trump supporters are rabid conspiracy theorists and this will potentially throw fuel on the fire.

Will this impeachment, if successful stop Trump from ever to holding office again?

Will it even be successful? What is the fall-out if they can’t get enough Republican support to convict? Will that be seen the same as a ‘not guilty’ verdict in a criminal trial?

The RNC can’t wait to cut him lose, to if he did try to run again it would be as a third party distraction. Maybe not a bad thing - he could pull all the whack jobs and white supremicists away from the Republican Party.

The justice system moves slowly, but eventually it catches up to everyone. He’s likely to spend the next several years defending himself in court anyway and criminal convictions would also prevent him from running again.
 
I must admit, I think the impeachment of Trump is a mistake, I would have just let the clown disappear into oblivion.
You can't let that sort of behavior go with no consequences. It needs the most extreme punishment as a future deterrent. Its not even about Trump.

Secondly, how on earth do you think he will just fade into oblivion? The spotlight is his raison d'etre
 
You can't let that sort of behavior go with no consequences. It needs the most extreme punishment as a future deterrent. Its not even about Trump.

Secondly, how on earth do you think he will just fade into oblivion? The spotlight is his raison d'etre
Spot on.
 
I must admit, I think the impeachment of Trump is a mistake, I would have just let the clown disappear into oblivion.
They're doing exactly as they've stated all along and cannot be construed in any other way. Eventually, the rest of the world will tire of it and start to think Hmmm, bit of a Banana Republic that wot with that Biden family malarkey going on.

I think everyone agrees that his conduct met the standards of an impeachable offense, but I’m also not so sure it was a good strategic move. Might be better to leave it to the courts, rather than add more fuel to the conspiracy theorists trying to delegitimize the government.

From what I’ve heard from the legal folks, criminal charges will be a difficult case to make and he would probably be aquited. Whereas the civil law suits against him, for his role in the attack, are likely to win (OJ Simpson, again
Even the Tech Giants are careful in the wordings of the ban i.e. it was interpreted by meaning that Trump was not inciting a coup d'etat.

That's exactly my concern. A large constituency of Trump supporters are rabid conspiracy theorists and this will potentially throw fuel on the fire.

Will this impeachment, if successful stop Trump from ever to holding office again?
And a large of constituency of Hilary supporters weren't with the Russian collusion lies? To be fair, that was a paid for psyop from start to finish.

Do they really fear that a 78 year old Trump would be fit and agile enough to get back in the ring in four years time?

Trump can take this away: they believe he would!
 
You can't let that sort of behavior go with no consequences. It needs the most extreme punishment as a future deterrent. Its not even about Trump.

Secondly, how on earth do you think he will just fade into oblivion? The spotlight is his raison d'etre
I appreciate that. Its just, is impeachment is the right way to go about it, especially given the loons behind him.
 
I appreciate that. Its just, is impeachment is the right way to go about it, especially given the loons behind him.

Definitely not faulting you for asking the question, but yes, I think it is.
 
They're doing exactly as they've stated all along and cannot be construed in any other way. Eventually, the rest of the world will tire of it and start to think Hmmm, bit of a Banana Republic that wot with that Biden family malarkey going on.


Even the Tech Giants are careful in the wordings of the ban i.e. it was interpreted by meaning that Trump was not inciting a coup d'etat.


And a large of constituency of Hilary supporters weren't with the Russian collusion lies? To be fair, that was a paid for psyop from start to finish.

Do they really fear that a 78 year old Trump would be fit and agile enough to get back in the ring in four years time?

Trump can take this away: they believe he would!
I'm afraid Americans are prone to conspiracy theories.

As for your point about being agile and fit enough, I think Dogsta's point above about him loving the limelight too much is apposite.
 
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Biden is tapping noted China hawk Kurt Campbell as an Asia Tsar. I eagerly await Shoeey's tortured logic on how this is serving the CCP.

I wouldn't get sucked into all the hype, this guy is just another toothless tiger who will toe the line. How do l know? Because we can easily see who is who from their actions and what they say. If you look into this guy you'll quickly notice that he skirts around the tough issues of China human rights, that is how you always tell who is for real and who is just a placement to make out a government is getting tough on China. You will find that this guy will be part of the swamp. Some people are easy to pick while others are difficult to pick, but so far this guy has `toothless tiger' written all over him.

Btw, be careful about the news going around alleging Trump asked his supporters to get violent. There are a number of fake versions of the news going around, but if you read Trump's original speech you'll find he never asked for any violence. Be careful not to be fooled by fake news media.

Here is the full speech Trump made that day: the speech is very different to what they mainstream media are trying to convince the people that Trump said.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/trumps-full-speech-at-jan-6-save-america-rally_3649786.html

btw, here is something interesting:

Twitter, Facebook Lose $51B in Value After Trump Ban​



People won't stand for the censorship, that's what China does, it censors speech they don't approve of. They are trying to hide the truth, that's why they censor, but it will come out.

If Trump is so crazy, let him talk and debunk him, but they don't because they don't have real answers...anything they say won't hold up to scrutiny, because they are the crooks and they are trying to cover it up. Remember this:

Sidney Powell Releases A 270 Page Document Of Election Fraud Evidence To The Public​

https://centipedenation.com/transmi...ion-fraud-evidence-to-the-public/?ref=twitter

and the 270 page document:
https://wpcdn.zenger.news/wp-conten...-23-Sidney-Powell-Team-Binder-ZENGER-NEWS.pdf


don't go to sleep on me guys.
 
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Maybe they buy into many conspiracy theorists, but what is better, asking questions and trying to find out the truth or just staying asleep and not questioning anything? The Trump supporters know election fraud happened and they are trying to find answers.

At the end of the day, they key thing is to judge a person by how he behaves. His head may be full of conspiracy theories and silly nonsense, but as long as he acts peacefully it is not a problem.

Who were these ratbags storming the Congress? Who knows....maybe some were Trump supporters, but regardless, most Trump supporters were peaceful on that day.

People can add fuel to the fire all they like, but normal people are going to behave themselves and only the ratbags will misbehave. Freedom of speech is o.k, and they can say stuff and shout conspiracy theories because that is their right, but it is the peaceful conduct of how we behave that really counts.

Don't be fooled into justifying censorship, that is what the authoritarians want. I posted a video about that in the Trump thread.

This is a good interview with Alex Jones who was at the rally on the day:

 
This is a good interview with Alex Jones who was at the rally on the day:


Brits don’t have anybody as loud as Alex Jones.

Ian Paisley in his pomp was a match. The woman on the video with Sky’s Bolton, posted here a while back, could also do loud.

Jones is also a snake oil salesman. The stuff he tries to shift on his shows including genuine quack medicines.

He can make some valid points but listening to him is very hard work.
 
Brits don’t have anybody as loud as Alex Jones.

Ian Paisley in his pomp was a match. The woman on the video with Sky’s Bolton, posted here a while back, could also do loud.

Jones is also a snake oil salesman. The stuff he tries to shift on his shows including genuine quack medicines.

He can make some valid points but listening to him is very hard work.

For a 47 year old, his quack medicines are definitely not working!

In that interview he's restrained, he knows he's likely to be erased completely. He's frightened, but well worth a watch.

The gullible were well played...
 
btw, no-one has covered the 2020 election like NTD. The other news outlets can't get near what this channel has done. You will not hear this type of stuff on mainstream media because they are bought and paid for.

NTD, along with The Epoch Times and Sound of Hope, was founded by Falun Gong practitioners who had immigrated to the West. Many of its staff are Falun Gong adherents who volunteer their time and services. In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, president Zhong Lee stated that the company's original purpose was to "speak as the voice of Falun Gong", but that "media can also play a big role pushing democracy in China".

NTD is one of the organizations that Falun Gong founder Li Hongzhi has referred to as "our media", along with the The Epoch Times newspaper and the Shen Yun dance troupe.
 
NTD, along with The Epoch Times and Sound of Hope, was founded by Falun Gong practitioners who had immigrated to the West. Many of its staff are Falun Gong adherents who volunteer their time and services. In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, president Zhong Lee stated that the company's original purpose was to "speak as the voice of Falun Gong", but that "media can also play a big role pushing democracy in China".

NTD is one of the organizations that Falun Gong founder Li Hongzhi has referred to as "our media", along with the The Epoch Times newspaper and the Shen Yun dance troupe.
It’s interesting that Falun Gong have the wherewithal to fund a TV station. I think of them as an oppressed minority, but I suppose in a country the size of China even a minority can be a considerable number.
 
After the unmitigated train wreck we have lived through these past four years, it is nice to have a coherent grown-up in charge.
 
I will say, whatever your opinion of Biden, everyone should watch his inaugural address. It was pretty powerful.
 
I will say, whatever your opinion of Biden, everyone should watch his inaugural address. It was pretty powerful.

eight years as a VP and he never made a good speech, now he knocks it out of the park every single time.
 
His middle name is ‘Robinette’ Knock two letters off the end and he could set up as a plumber in Quebec.

His other son was called ‘Beau’. He seems like a very plastic Paddy. It would be more honest to just say he was American.
 

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