The War in the Ukraine

Who Will Win

  • Ukraine

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • Russia

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Nato

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • The West

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • America

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Right

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Wrong

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Good

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Evil

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Putin

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Zelensky

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • God

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Prigozhin

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Chechnya

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Trump

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
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Russians accused of crimes offered choice - fight in Ukraine instead of court

A former Olympic athlete has been told if he fights in Ukraine a criminal case against him will be frozen.
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"We received a leaked recording of an investigator describing the advantages of signing a contract with the Russian army to someone whose husband had already been sentenced to three years for theft.

'He can get six more for this other crime,' he tells her. 'I offered him a chance to sign an agreement. If his request is approved, he will go to war and we will close the case.'

If the accused signs, within a few days the criminal case is suspended, and they leave for the front line almost immediately."

That's one way to clear up your judicial backlog. Presumed guilty before innocence.
 
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Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky snubs UN chief after his Russia trip

A source in Ukraine's presidency tells the BBC that António Guterres shook hands with "war instigator" Vladimir Putin.
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"After attending a Brics summit in the Russian city of Kazan this week, Guterres had wanted to visit Kyiv, the BBC understands."

Optics. If only you had PR/media relations people to organise the trip the other way around.
 
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As US votes, Ukraine’s future hangs in balance

Ukrainians on the front lines tell the BBC's James Waterhouse that their country’s survival is in the hands of Americans.
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"We spoke to many of these people around the embattled eastern town of Pokrovsk, where Russian forces are inching closer.

There’s a feeling here that Ukraine should have negotiated at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, to prevent the death and destruction they’ve seen since.

'Death is not worth territory,' as one woman put it. 'We have to stop this war, and Trump is the person who knows how to do that.'"
 
“Soldiers of the Korean People’s Army who were sent to help the Putin regime: You should not die senselessly on someone else’s land! There is no need to repeat the fate of hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers who will never return home. Surrender into captivity! Ukraine will shelter, feed and warm you!”
 
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Hungary’s PM Orban predicts Trump will end support for Ukraine in comments before EU summit

Viktor Orban’s comments were a signal that Donald Trump’s recent election could drive a wedge among European Union leaders on the question of the war
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“'If Donald Trump had won in 2020 in the United States, these two nightmarish years wouldn’t have happened. There wouldn’t have been a war,' Orban said. 'The situation on the front is obvious, there’s been a military defeat. The Americans are going to pull out of this war.'"

Zelensky must be having a great time in Budapest
 
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Volodymyr Zelensky says Russia has 50,000 troops in Kursk

Ukraine's president says the incursion is limiting the forces Moscow can deploy inside his country.
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"Our men are holding back... 50,000 of the occupier's army personnel who, due to the Kursk operation, cannot be deployed to other Russian offensive directions on our territory,"

A good defence is a good offence.

"However, a report in the New York Times suggests Moscow has achieved its troop build-up in Kursk without any need to pull its soldiers out of Ukraine."

Okay...maybe not. Back to WW1 style attrition.
 
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Ukraine: Fury in Russia at missile move but Putin so far silent

What really counts is what President Putin does next, writes the BBC's Steve Rosenberg.
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"Second, we believe that if someone is thinking it is possible to supply such weapons to a war zone to strike our territory and create problems for us, why can’t we supply our weapons of the same class to those regions around the world where they will target sensitive facilities of the countries that are doing this to Russia?"

Missiles for everyone!
 


Am in the 1960s? Why am I looking at the Soviet Russian nuclear arsenal, the strike radius and the estimated 20 minutes it takes for one side to lob nuclear arms at each other?

We want WW3 because of Zelensky?
 
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Ukraine’s exhausted troops in Russia told to cling on and wait for Trump

Ukrainian soldiers paint a bleak picture of a battle they don't understand, and fear they will lose.
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“Pavlo spoke of immense fatigue, the lack of rotation and the arrival of units, made up largely of middle-aged men, brought directly from other fronts with little or no time to rest in between.”

Is that not better than seniors and teenagers?

“Soldiers said they had been told to capture at least one North Korean prisoner, preferably with documents.

They spoke of rewards - drones or extra leave - being offered to anyone who successfully captures a North Korean soldier.

‘It’s very difficult to find a Korean in the dark Kursk forest,’ Pavlo noted sarcastically. ‘Especially if he’s not here.’”

Like the Iraqi deck of cards.
 
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Kyiv issues ultimatum on NATO membership

Ukraine is losing hope that the alliance will invite it to join anytime soon.
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“‘We will not accept any alternatives, surrogates or substitutes for Ukraine’s full membership in NATO,’ he said, adding that only such a move would counter Russian aggression.”

Or else? Usually ultimatums have an or else that is not palatable.
 
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U.S. announces nearly $1-billion more in longer-term weapons support for Ukraine

The U.S. has provided Ukraine with more than $62-billion in military aid since Russia’s invasion in February 2022
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“'This administration has made its choice. So has a bipartisan coalition in Congress. The next administration must make its own choice,' Austin said in a speech at an annual gathering of national security officials, defence firms and lawmakers at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California."

I am sure those defence firms have their own preference.
 
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Zelensky floats idea of deploying foreign troops to Ukraine before NATO membership

Ukraine’s President made the remark during a joint press conference in Kyiv with German opposition leader Friedrich Merz
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“A troop contingent from one country or another could be present in Ukraine for as long as it isn’t part of NATO"

What's the NATO version of a North Korea?

“I intend to call President Biden in the coming time to discuss the question of an invitation to join NATO...He is the current president and a lot rides on his opinion. Discussing it with Trump before he takes office doesn’t make so much sense.”

Contrary to what the rest of the world's leaders are doing...except Angola.
 
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At least 100 North Koreans dead in Ukraine war, says South Korea

Some 1,000 have been injured and senior officers are among the casualties, an MP says, quoting officials.
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"The North Korean troops, none of whom will have any previous combat experience, are believed to have spent their first weeks in Russia in training and then in support roles.

'Within the Russian military, complaints have reportedly surfaced that the North Korean troops, due to their lack of knowledge about drones, are more of a burden than an asset,'"

Marginally less effective than Prigozhin's convicts then...

"Lee Sung-kwon said there were reports of preparations for additional deployment, and that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un could oversee training."

And Kim Jong Un has previous combat experience from where to do this training? Call of Duty? PowerPoint slides decked out with propaganda?
 
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Ukraine captures North Korean soldier in Russia, says Seoul

The soldier is thought to be the first North Korean prisoner of war captured in the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
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"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy claimed earlier this month that Russian soldiers had been spotted burning the faces of North Koreans who died in battle - allegedly to conceal their identities."

That's a job in the Russian military? Who would do that? The Chechen blocking units?
 
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North Korean soldiers kill themselves to avoid capture in Ukraine, U.S. says

North Korean troops are being treated as “expendable” and ordered to take on “hopeless assaults against Ukrainian defenses,” National Security Council official John Kirby said.
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“‘The North Korean troops are being treated as ‘expendable,’ ordered by their leadership on ‘hopeless assaults against Ukrainian defenses,’ Kirby said.

‘These North Korean soldiers appear to be highly indoctrinated, pushing attacks even when it is clear that those attacks are futile,’ he said.

According to White House National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby, some North Korean soldiers have taken their own lives rather than surrendering to Ukrainian forces.“

Banzai!

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Ukraine launches new offensive in Russia's Kursk region

The assault, which Moscow’s Defense Ministry confirmed Sunday, appeared to be an effort to seize new territory after months under pressure ahead of Donald Trump’s inauguration.
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Let's keep taking Kursk oblast whilst losing what Zelensky calls "our land".
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Which do you think is a better bargaining chip?

I am surprised though. The initial strike into Kursk made tactical sense because the Russians were unprepared to defend it, unlike the fortified front lines in Ukraine. It’s hard to believe that’s still the case.
 
Dropbear said:
Which do you think is a better bargaining chip?

I am surprised though. The initial strike into Kursk made tactical sense because the Russians were unprepared to defend it, unlike the fortified front lines in Ukraine. It’s hard to believe that’s still the case.
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I just find it a direct contrast to 18 months ago when Zelensky said he is not interested in Russia. He was only interested in reclaiming his land. His definition of his land, which at that point was causing major consternation amongst bystanders, was the Ukrainian border post dissolution of USSR.

All negotiations will end poorly for Ukraine.

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I am surprised though. The initial strike into Kursk made tactical sense because the Russians were unprepared to defend it, unlike the fortified front lines in Ukraine. It’s hard to believe that’s still the case.
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The Rosgvardiya are defending for Putin just as rigorously as they were defending him when Prigozhin was marching on Moscow. But everyone has to have their Battle of the Bulge and show off some military hardware.
 
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Zelensky offers exchange of North Korean soldiers

One of the soldiers thought he was going to Russia for "training", Kyiv's security service said.
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"’For those North Korean soldiers who do not wish to return, there may be other options available,’ Zelensky said on social media, adding ‘those who express a desire to bring peace closer by spreading the truth about this war in Korean will be given that opportunity’”

Other options can include fighting for Ukraine…Plenty of foreign nationals including your former Russian comrades do it
 
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Ukrainians' hopes and concerns as Trump presidency nears

Those fighting for Ukraine and those who have lost loved ones hope to end the war with Russia on their own terms.
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“Serhiy Hnezdilov, a burly 24-year-old, is locked in a glass cubicle in a packed courtroom in the city of Dnipro. He is on trial on charges of desertion, and is one of many.

Since 2022, around 100,000 cases have been opened against soldiers who left their units, according to data from Ukraine's General Prosecutor's office.”

You lost 1/8 to desertion?
 
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Dangerous drug-resistant bacteria are spreading in Ukraine

War appears to have accelerated the spread of pathogens resistant to antibiotics in the country.
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"'In surgical departments there is one nurse that looks after 15-20 patients,' he said. 'She physically cannot scrub up her hands in the required amount and frequency in order not to spread infections.'"

At least you're not reusing needles.
 
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