The War in the Ukraine

Who Will Win

  • Ukraine

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • Russia

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Nato

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • The West

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • America

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Right

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Wrong

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Good

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Evil

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Putin

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Zelensky

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • God

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Prigozhin

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Chechnya

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Trump

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    7
At least the Belarusian volunteer units seem to be for real and sizable.

 
1. Gee, I bet the Ukrainian army wishes the Germans would buy them a few of these.

2. I didn’t know they were still making Chinooks. They have been around for 60+ years,

 
Dropbear said:
sofrep.com

Slovenia Sending Tanks to Ukraine, Ukrainian Tank Brigades on the Roll

Slovenia is donating its own set of tanks (rumored to be M-84s) to Ukraine in an effort to help the Ukrainians defend its territory against the Russian...
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You do know once they pass these off they are replenished from someone (I.e. US or Britain) with newer models?

Dropbear said:
1. Gee, I bet the Ukrainian army wishes the Germans would buy them a few of these.

2. I didn’t know they were still making Chinooks. They have been around for 60+ years,

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Does that mean we will see more Osprey too?
 
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Dropbear said:
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Fake news?

www.foxnews.com

Germany halts arms shipments to Ukraine, will provide training and maintenance instead

Germany on said it has maxed out its ability to send arms to Ukraine and instead pledged to provide training and maintain its military equipment.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

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and in other news.

www.dailymail.co.uk

France and Germany 'sold £230million of military hardware to Moscow'

They were able to sell the equipment using a backdoor technicality that permitted contracts signed before August 1, 2014, or additional contracts that would help conclude those deals.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
Why many people in India aren't condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine

"We are neutral … because we don't want to rub [Russia] the wrong way. Who will supply us then?"

"Russia provides more than half of India's military equipment including tanks, weapons and fighter jets, often at a cheaper price than arms from Western countries. It's a key consideration for India, surrounded by countries with which it has icy relations."


The way to an Indian heart...cheaper prices.
 


Must be the newest propaganda line

Ned Price: "Our Ukrainian partners won the battle of Kyiv. Right now they are winning the battle for Ukraine..."

Reporter: "Does victory mean they take back the Donbas region? Crimea as well?"

Ned Price: "This is going to be a victory for Ukraine. It is going to be a strategic defeat for Russia however and whenever that happens we are competent of that.

Now the Ukrainian, our Ukrainian partners are willing to engage in dialogue in good faith with their Russian counterparts about bringing this needless violence to an end...bringing this war to a conclusion."

Mr. Price must have some map of the battlefield that we don't have access to.
 
www.nbcnews.com

A small country is accepting a large portion of Ukrainian refugees. Russia watches closely.

No country has taken more refugees per capita than Moldova, where people have opened their homes to Ukrainians. But the country faces challenges, including growing Russian pressure.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

"The country is small, poor and terribly vulnerable to a hostile Russia. It receives 100 percent of its gas and electricity from Russia, and there is deep anxiety inside Moldova that Moscow will try to destabilize the country following elections last year in which a pro-Western political party headed by Moldova’s first female president, Maia Sandu, won decisively. Sandu is seeking stronger ties with the European Union and formally applied for membership following the invasion.

Tensions are high. Sandu signed a bill last week banning Russian symbols of aggression, eliciting stern words from Russian officials."
 
Dropbear said:
Five year old pic with no connection to the Azov Regiment:

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Looks like a member of some death metal band to me.

Watched the video where Putin's hands shake, looks like Parkinson's to me. Along with his dead looking eyes. There's Parkinson's where you just get the shakes and there's others where you're brain rots away into paranoid delusions then outright madness.
 
This is the fifth or sixth raid deep inside Russia that we are aware of. Targets have all been military or oil and gas production/storage.

Expect a Hollywood treatment of the Ukrainian partisans and CIA teaming up to beat Putin in the future.

 
www.bbc.com

Ukraine: West should provide warplanes, says Liz Truss

Foreign Secretary Liz Truss will use a speech to urge Nato to answer calls for heavier armaments.
www.bbc.com

"Well, some countries - like Poland - have said they were willing to give Ukraine some aging MIG29s. But it has not happened. That's because Poland wanted the United States to replace the donated MIGs with newer, American combat aircraft.

Poland also wanted the US to deliver the MIGs to Ukraine themselves. The US refused to do this, citing logistical difficulties and the risk of provoking Russia by flying aircraft."
 
Dropbear said:
This is the fifth or sixth raid deep inside Russia that we are aware of. Targets have all been military or oil and gas production/storage.

Expect a Hollywood treatment of the Ukrainian partisans and CIA teaming up to beat Putin in the future.

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Maybe, but is it the Russian resistance degrading capabilities for the army to wage war and then ushering a coup?

Whatever, it's impressive.
Fwiffo said:
www.bbc.com

Transnistria and Ukraine conflict: Is war spreading?

Mysterious explosions in Transnistria raise fears that the Ukraine conflict may spread to Moldova.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

In addition to the ammunition depot explosion in Belgorod.
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We'll see, but if the brother-in-law is still on his LNG ship (what better reserved occupation?) it may yet fall on me to go and get the mother-in-law and the brother-in-laws wife's parents out. I won't be going in the Polo, I'll take his Mercedes SUV, as you do for these types of missions.
 
Pimpernel Smith said:
it may yet fall on me to go and get the mother-in-law and the brother-in-laws wife's parents out. I won't be going in the Polo, I'll take his Merc
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Out of Moldova? You're driving there as a recognisable 'Britisher'? Why not just give them money and fly them out?
 
www.bbc.com

Push Russia out of whole of Ukraine, says Truss

Western allies must "double down" in their support for Ukraine, the UK's foreign secretary says.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

"The war in Ukraine is our war - it is everyone's war… because Ukraine's victory is a strategic imperative for all of us.

"Heavy weapons, tanks, aeroplanes - digging deep into our inventories, ramping up production. We need to do all of this."

Let's get some boots on the ground too!
 
Fwiffo said:
Out of Moldova? You're driving there as a recognisable 'Britisher'? Why not just give them money and fly them out?
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If trouble starts the flights will stop.
Fwiffo said:
www.bbc.com

Push Russia out of whole of Ukraine, says Truss

Western allies must "double down" in their support for Ukraine, the UK's foreign secretary says.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

"The war in Ukraine is our war - it is everyone's war… because Ukraine's victory is a strategic imperative for all of us.

"Heavy weapons, tanks, aeroplanes - digging deep into our inventories, ramping up production. We need to do all of this."

Let's get some boots on the ground too!
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She's not wrong.
 
Fleeing the same war' in Ukraine but treated differently: Black doctor bemoans Swiss limbo

"What the 27-year-old saw and felt trying to board trains out of Ukraine — his home of eight years, where he can practise general medicine and was months away from obtaining a specialization in orthopedic surgery — have made him understand for the first time that he is different.

That realization has been further driven home as he sits in an isolated Swiss emergency shelter on a mountain an hour and a half outside of Bern, Switzerland's capital."

"His Ukrainian residency card doesn't afford him any rights.

'Unfortunately you are not Ukrainian, and it is only at this time that you understand that, yeah, you're different. And I appreciate the fact that I am different, but it doesn't mean that I should be treated the way I am,' Abdul Mumin said Tuesday from a waiting area at the shelter.

'Throughout every single process you can see some level of discrimination, and I don't understand why. I mean, we're fleeing the same war.'"

Racism against black Africans in Europe? Never heard of.

You could always volunteer as a foreign fighter for Ukraine and earn your citizenship.
 
Fwiffo said:
Fleeing the same war' in Ukraine but treated differently: Black doctor bemoans Swiss limbo

"What the 27-year-old saw and felt trying to board trains out of Ukraine — his home of eight years, where he can practise general medicine and was months away from obtaining a specialization in orthopedic surgery — have made him understand for the first time that he is different.

That realization has been further driven home as he sits in an isolated Swiss emergency shelter on a mountain an hour and a half outside of Bern, Switzerland's capital."

"His Ukrainian residency card doesn't afford him any rights.

'Unfortunately you are not Ukrainian, and it is only at this time that you understand that, yeah, you're different. And I appreciate the fact that I am different, but it doesn't mean that I should be treated the way I am,' Abdul Mumin said Tuesday from a waiting area at the shelter.

'Throughout every single process you can see some level of discrimination, and I don't understand why. I mean, we're fleeing the same war.'"

Racism against black Africans in Europe? Never heard of.

You could always volunteer as a foreign fighter for Ukraine and earn your citizenship.
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Shouldn't he be fighting the good fight, by being a doctor for the troops and civilians left behind? Surely that was the right move for a doctor in a war zone, especially in a country he had called home for the last 8 years.

I've seen conflicting reports on this, one African student had a Youtube channel and he didn't have any issued getting out, or experienced any racism.

Also the Red Crescent is very active on the borders and welcoming refugees - many brown and black faces there.
 
I can't believe how wacist Ukwaine and Switzewland awe.

Surely after living for 8 years on Ukrainian soil this "doctor" should have asked to be naturalized, why didn't he do that? Especially since he claims that he "doesn't know Ghana anymowe" his country of citizenship. What's the holdup then? Ukraine will grant you a Ukrainian citizenship after just 5 years of continuous residency there. He just has to show that he can communicate in Ukrainian and renounce his Ghanaian citizenship. Why didn't do just that? it's not that difficult to do.... These nuclear engineers and neurosurgeons from Afwica never cease to amaze me.

Residents who aren't going back to their own countries of citizenship are just looking for some freeloading, they just want an easy time and blame Europe for not kissing their dirty ass. Ukrainians can't go back to their home countries, residents can. That's the difference between being a refugee and a leech.
 


Clearly someone forgot to tell the Russians their itinerary.
 
Bardamu said:
I can't believe how wacist Ukwaine and Switzewland awe.

Surely after living for 8 years on Ukrainian soil this "doctor" should have asked to be naturalized, why didn't he do that? Especially since he claims that he "doesn't know Ghana anymowe" his country of citizenship. What's the holdup then? Ukraine will grant you a Ukrainian citizenship after just 5 years of continuous residency there. He just has to show that he can communicate in Ukrainian and renounce his Ghanaian citizenship. Why didn't do just that? it's not that difficult to do.... These nuclear engineers and neurosurgeons from Afwica never cease to amaze me.

Residents who aren't going back to their own countries of citizenship are just looking for some freeloading, they just want an easy time and blame Europe for not kissing their dirty ass. Ukrainians can't go back to their home countries, residents can. That's the difference between being a refugee and a leech.
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It's interesting that the BBC are naive enough to think we should feel sympathy towards him. If he was a man, he would be using his skills in the country that adopted and trained him. Instead this ''doctor'' as you correctly identify him as, is looking for the refugee ticket. He's not looking to practice medicine any time soon. And that's very revealing. Since when have MD's in the final stages of specializing considered themselves students?

But the truth will out: you see now in the UK local councils turning on the government with their plans to house 100's and some cases 1000's of the dinghy arrivals in their communities. As they now know, this is the next generation of those looking to live on the dole. And it's costly.

Here the government has asked the local councils to build temporary pods or accommodation for refugees. Not for the Ukrainian ones, they're entitled to arrive and work straight away. All of my wife's family who have arrived are already gainfully employed. But these are for the more tricky ones, those next generation of doctors, engineers and scientists who it takes many years to integrate into polite society. Think there's some pods being built by my office, I will try and take some photos over the weekend. They look cheap and nasty.

Dropbear said:
Denazification success!

www.thenationalnews.com

Wagner Group wipeout sees 3,000 mercenaries killed in Ukraine | The National

Private security operator sent 8,000 to war but has lost nearly half
www.thenationalnews.com www.thenationalnews.com
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One of the few places I've seen Nazi swastika graffiti in abundance was in Astrakhan, there was loads of it.
Fwiffo said:
This is to tell me he paralysed EU or days before 24th February in January when Zelensky was saying are there tanks on his streets in Kiev?
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What he's saying is that this was all well on the cards and being planned for back in the Spring of 2021.
 
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