All About Watches

[Monkeyface]

Would you guys buy a new/nearly new Tudor Black Bay or a 30y old Rolex GMT?

 

[Thruth]

Would you guys buy a new/nearly new Tudor Black Bay or a 30y old Rolex GMT?

Similar price? I'd say the Rolex. The Black Bay is nice but but it is an in-house homage to their past watches so unless you want that...

 

[LKP]

Would you guys buy a new/nearly new Tudor Black Bay or a 30y old Rolex GMT?

30 yr old = 1675? the 1675 is very very very beautiful
especially if you get one with a radial dial...

 

[Monkeyface]

Similar price? I'd say the Rolex. The Black Bay is nice but but it is an in-house homage to their past watches so unless you want that...

No, Rolex is about £4-5k, a new Tudor about £2.5k. I'd say the Tudor will depreciate by about a grand over time, while the Rolex will remain flat to a slight appreciation, at least in line with inflation. Rolex maintenance is more expensive though.

The only reason I'm thinking of buying it is because a watch will return more than a savings account (even when taking into account the cost of carry) and I get some enjoyment out of wearing it. It's also a relatively liquid asset, meaning I'll be able to sell it within a month in case I need the cash.

Hence, the Rolex, despite being more expensive, seems to be the smarter option.

30 yr old = 1675? the 1675 is very very very beautiful
especially if you get one with a radial dial...

Yeah, 1675. Not sure if a radial dial is worth the extra 2-3k, think a regular one will do just fine. Pepsi bezel of course.

 

[LKP]

No, Rolex is about £4-5k, a new Tudor about £2.5k. I'd say the Tudor will depreciate by about a grand over time, while the Rolex will remain flat to a slight appreciation, at least in line with inflation. Rolex maintenance is more expensive though.

The only reason I'm thinking of buying it is because a watch will return more than a savings account (even when taking into account the cost of carry) and I get some enjoyment out of wearing it. It's also a relatively liquid asset, meaning I'll be able to sell it within a month in case I need the cash.

Hence, the Rolex, despite being more expensive, seems to be the smarter option.



Yeah, 1675. Not sure if a radial dial is worth the extra 2-3k, think a regular one will do just fine. Pepsi bezel of course.

16700 vs 1675 radial

The radial ones have become very expensive, have a look at chrono24... Starting from €12.000!

 

[Monkeyface]

16700 vs 1675 radial

The radial ones have become very expensive, have a look at chrono24... Starting from €12.000!

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I'd rather have a regular one for half the price. At 12k it seems like it doesn't have much more room to increase in value.

 

[LKP]

I'd rather have a regular one for half the price. At 12k it seems like it doesn't have much more room to increase in value.

yes
mega bubble

http://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/gmt...ss-gilt-radial-underline-1963s--id4386148.htm

sup?

 

[Thruth]

Get the Rolex. Better in the long run by all accounts. Plus because there are so many GMT's you won't get the aggro from the RSC about not wanting to service because of lack of parts or be responsible for damaging a rare dial - which they are doing with some rarer models.

All top end watches cost for service. But that is once every 5 to 7 years

My Sinn service is €700

 

[Monkeyface]

yes
mega bubble

http://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/gmt...ss-gilt-radial-underline-1963s--id4386148.htm

sup?

Yeah, all real assets (especially of the luxury variety) have inflated in price quite a bit since 2008. Real estate, art, classic cars, wine, whisky, etc.

 

[doghouse]

Get the Rolex. Better in the long run by all accounts. Plus because there are so many GMT's you won't get the aggro from the RSC about not wanting to service because of lack of parts or be responsible for damaging a rare dial - which they are doing with some rarer models.

All top end watches cost for service. But that is once every 5 to 7 years

My Sinn service is €700

Damn, I didn't know Sinn had gotten that dear.

Yeah, all real assets (especially of the luxury variety) have inflated in price quite a bit since 2008. Real estate, art, classic cars, wine, whisky, etc.

Art has gotten absurd lately, but there are still some good values in low profile sectors. Wine too. Real Estate is just ridiculous across the board.

 

[Monkeyface]

Damn, I didn't know Sinn had gotten that dear.



Art has gotten absurd lately, but there are still some good values in low profile sectors. Wine too. Real Estate is just ridiculous across the board.

Modern art is on the way down already, not really performing well in auctions lately. One of the first signs of the bubble becoming slightly less inflated. It probably won't burst though.

 

[Thruth]

Damn, I didn't know Sinn had gotten that dear..

It has always been with the EZM1. Has to go to Frankfurt and there is added €€ because the have to refill the Ar gas

 

[doghouse]

Modern art is on the way down already, not really performing well in auctions lately. One of the first signs of the bubble becoming slightly less inflated. It probably won't burst though.

Yeah, I doubt it bursts. But there are also some 19th-20th century areas that are good value.

 

[doghouse]

It has always been with the EZM1. Has to go to Frankfurt and there is added €€ because the have to refill the Ar gas

Gotcha.

 

[Grand Potentate]

It has always been with the EZM1. Has to go to Frankfurt and there is added €€ because the have to refill the Ar gas

couldn't you find a certified watch repair shop somewhere in Canada or the US for cheaper?

 

[Thruth]

couldn't you find a certified watch repair shop somewhere in Canada or the US for cheaper?

No one has the machinery for Argon. Even the North American Sinn service centre can't do it

 

[Grand Potentate]

No one has the machinery for Argon. Even the North American Sinn service centre can't do it

how can no one outside of germany have the equipment to repair this watch?

 

[Thruth]

how can no one outside of germany have the equipment to repair this watch?

 

[Grand Potentate]

It has always been with the EZM1. Has to go to Frankfurt and there is added €€ because the have to refill the Ar gas

http://www.rgmwatches.com/repair/

just got off the phone with them. they have had the tech to do the repair for 2 years now. cost is about $550 with $20 shipping.

 

[Thruth]

http://www.rgmwatches.com/repair/

just got off the phone with them. they have had the tech to do the repair for 2 years now. cost is about $550 with $20 shipping.

Good to know. Thanks. Previously talked to them before they obviously acquired the equipment and they told me to send it to Frankfurt so never thought to enquire again

 

[Grand Potentate]

Good to know. Thanks. Previously talked to them before they obviously acquired the equipment and they told me to send it to Frankfurt so never thought to enquire again

I'm here for ya.

 

[Thruth]

I'm here for ya.

I know and it fills my heart with gratitude.

 

[Thruth]

Dropbear , what about this pilot watch? Maratac. $269

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/maratac-watch?referer=8N9DF2

 

[Dropbear]

That is definitely nicer than anything else in that price range. I still want the pseudo-authentic touches of the Stowa though.

 

[Grand Potentate]

That is definitely nicer than anything else in that price range. I still want the pseudo-authentic touches of the Stowa though.

Get the Stowa. You'll always be second guessing yourself if you don't.

 

[Leitmotif]

Changed the strap of the seiko

 

[prince nez]

My Sinn service is €700

Damn, I didn't know Sinn had gotten that dear.

It has always been with the EZM1. Has to go to Frankfurt and there is added €€ because the have to refill the Ar gas

When I got mine I made sure they had the Ar refill gear here in Oz. Sending a tool watch with a 3rd party workhorse movement back to Europe for service held zero appeal to me.

 

[prince nez]

Changed the strap of the seiko

View attachment 18282

You should try it on a CHINstrap.

 

[prince nez]

Having a Cosmopolitan before lunch at my club:

Olo please tell Samantha I said hi.

 

[LKP]

You should try it on a CHINstrap.

chinstrap instead of chinastrap

 

[Monkeyface]

Richemont profit down 45%. Bubble is bursting? Vintage Rolex prices going down?

 

[sirloin]

Richemont profit down 45%. Bubble is bursting? Vintage Rolex prices going down?

Good. There is a need competition blodsport style in the 3000 - 5000 $ range. imho this is where ppl outside of watch geeks, are willing to invest in that one quality watch.

 

[Dropbear]

Since the Stowa is out of my league in the near future:

TISELL 40mm MIYOTA 90s5 pilot has beenrestocked. Price is US $199(Free shipping)

Select required: Type A or B

CASE: Diameter 40mm without crown, Brushed 316L stainless steel See-through case back(Mineral glass), Thickness 9.5mm, Lug 20mm, water resistant 50m, Lug to lug 49mm

Dial: Super-Luminova BGW9

Hands: Heat-treated blue hands, Super-Luminova BGW9

Front glass: Sapphire crystal (AR coating inside)

Movement: MIYOTA 90S5 Automatic Movement , Runnig Time- 40Hour, 90s5- No date function. Just single pull for time adjustment.

 

[Journeyman]

I like it.

It would, however, be better without the display back (in my personal opinion).

 

[Dropbear]

I like it.

It would, however, be better without the display back (in my personal opinion).

Any reason?

I have no preference to be honest - since the case back isn't visable on the wrist.

 

[Thruth]

View attachment 18821 View attachment 18820 Since the Stowa is out of my league in the near future:

TISELL 40mm MIYOTA 90s5 pilot has beenrestocked. Price is US $199(Free shipping)

Select required: Type A or B

CASE: Diameter 40mm without crown, Brushed 316L stainless steel See-through case back(Mineral glass), Thickness 9.5mm, Lug 20mm, water resistant 50m, Lug to lug 49mm

Dial: Super-Luminova BGW9

Hands: Heat-treated blue hands, Super-Luminova BGW9

Front glass: Sapphire crystal (AR coating inside)

Movement: MIYOTA 90S5 Automatic Movement , Runnig Time- 40Hour, 90s5- No date function. Just single pull for time adjustment.

Fits the bill for most of what you are looking for. A workhorse movement. Can't beat the price

 

[Dropbear]

Fits the bill for most of what you are looking for. A workhorse movement. Can't beat the price

I ordered the Type 40mm A Tisell and a band from Stowa.

 

[prince nez]

I like it.

It would, however, be better without the display back (in my personal opinion).

Any reason?

I have no preference to be honest - since the case back isn't visable on the wrist.

A display back showcasing an undecorated Miyota movt... Like working cuff buttons on a Men's Warehouse suit.

 

[Dropbear]

After reading way to many watch geek forums now, I'm even tempted to add a Sub homage. And I've always made fun of Rolex wearers.

CASE:

Diameter 40mm without crown,Screw-down crown, Brushed 316L stainless steel, Ceramic Bezel

Solid case back, Thickness 12.5mm, Lug 20mm,Oyster brushed bracelet, water resistant 200m

Dial:

Luminova C1

Hands:

Luminova C1

Front glass:

Sapphire crystal (AR coating inside)

Movement:

MIYOTA 9015 Automatic Movement , Runnig Time- 40Hour

 

[Grand Potentate]

View attachment 18887 After reading way to many watch geek forums now, I'm even tempted to add a Sub homage. And I've always made fun of Rolex wearers.

CASE:

Diameter 40mm without crown,Screw-down crown, Brushed 316L stainless steel, Ceramic Bezel

Solid case back, Thickness 12.5mm, Lug 20mm,Oyster brushed bracelet, water resistant 200m

Dial:

Luminova C1

Hands:

Luminova C1

Front glass:

Sapphire crystal (AR coating inside)

Movement:

MIYOTA 9015 Automatic Movement , Runnig Time- 40Hour

Sub-homages aren't my ballpark but I'm sure you can do better than those.