Brexit - The UK and the EU

Pimpernel Smith

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UK calls on EU to renegotiate or face no deal

"EU leaders must give their chief negotiator the mandate to revise the UK's withdrawal agreement, otherwise a no-deal Brexit is 'coming down the tracks', the Brexit secretary has said."

Threats are also a negotiation tactic.
No deal is the only deal, the only deal on the table. Boris only needs to hold the line and watch Remainers go off their heads in incompetent rage as they can't do nothing to stop the democratic will of the people. As for renegotiation as is well known, the EU is too proud to negotiate with anyone but paid for and owned lackeys.
 

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No deal is the only deal, the only deal on the table. Boris only needs to hold the line and watch Remainers go off their heads in incompetent rage as they can't do nothing to stop the democratic will of the people. As for renegotiation as is well known, the EU is too proud to negotiate with anyone but paid for and owned lackeys.
There is still the chance that some remainer MP will call it quits (for a reward, of course) and trigger a new local election. Doesn't matter what party he/ she/ it is from. Remainers will vote tactically for a certain candidate (and win), while the Leave side will split their votes.
Still not sure who is pulling Boris' strings...
 

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"A leaked cross-government study warning of the impact of a no-deal Brexit outlines a 'worst-case scenario', cabinet minister Michael Gove has said. Details from the dossier warn of food and medicine shortages if the UK leaves the EU without a deal. Mr Gove, who is responsible for no-deal preparation, said the document was old and Brexit planning had accelerated since Boris Johnson became PM. But he acknowledged no deal would bring disruption, or 'bumps in the road'."

You mean no one makes medicine or grows food in Britain anymore?
 

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No many banana, mangoe, avocado, pineapple farmers is in UK. Pharmaceuticals are very centralised and global - we would import most of ours in Oz.

We can grow - and do - almost any food here in Oz but transporting food from Queensland to say Melbourne is just as far as from Spain to UK (I think)
 

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"A leaked cross-government study warning of the impact of a no-deal Brexit outlines a 'worst-case scenario', cabinet minister Michael Gove has said. Details from the dossier warn of food and medicine shortages if the UK leaves the EU without a deal. Mr Gove, who is responsible for no-deal preparation, said the document was old and Brexit planning had accelerated since Boris Johnson became PM. But he acknowledged no deal would bring disruption, or 'bumps in the road'."

You mean no one makes medicine or grows food in Britain anymore?
They do, but not in amounts to support the "needs" of the locals. I personally think that a lack of food will do the overweight population good.
The other big story is Corbyn failing to get support for his plot to overthrow the Tory government to stop a "No deal" Brexit. Or rather stop Brexit altogether!
 

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No many banana, mangoe, avocado, pineapple farmers is in UK. Pharmaceuticals are very centralised and global - we would import most of ours in Oz.

We can grow - and do - almost any food here in Oz but transporting food from Queensland to say Melbourne is just as far as from Spain to UK (I think)
Not many banana, mangoe and pineapple farmers in Mainland Europe either.

The UK is a center of excellence in the pharmaceutical industries. Billions in R&D and a net exporter to the rest of the world. Of the top five pharmaceutical companies in the world, two of them are located in the UK: AstraZeneca and GlaxoSmithKline.

The report that was leaked is an old report compiled under the quisling regime of Theresa May.
 

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The report that was leaked is an old report compiled under the quisling regime of Theresa May.
The MSM (in particular the BBC) have been painting a doom and gloom scenario for the past 3 years, but now that Boris Johnson has a tougher stance on leaving the EU, food and medications have been at the centre of it ever since, with strong hints at the "possibility" of people stockpiling either. Looking at the folk here in this small town and the surrounding areas, I do think that the UK is not a healthy nation.
Obesity is rampant, with all the other side effects across all ages. Not stuffing their faces with processed, sugar laden food and/ or meat from animals pumped full with growth hormones and antibiotics will do them good.
Funny, though, food not getting into the UK means that the producing nations can't sell it and that it needs to be stored in some shape or form.
There has been massive over-production of agricultural produce for decades, fruits and vegetables got and get destroyed every year (to keep the prices high), milk gets turned into powder for easier storage and clever business people make millions per year storing grains in large warehouses. All this paid for by the EU tax payers.
Most of the cheaper stuff (especially meat products) in supermarkets here comes from EU mainland, so the pressure will be on them to secure a beneficial trade deal.
 

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No many banana, mangoe, avocado, pineapple farmers is in UK. Pharmaceuticals are very centralised and global - we would import most of ours in Oz.

We can grow - and do - almost any food here in Oz but transporting food from Queensland to say Melbourne is just as far as from Spain to UK (I think)
What happened to eating locally? Like an apple. Banana, mango, avocado and pineapple do not seem like they are part of a year round British diet.

It's the same in Canada. The Maritime east coast buys their petrol from South America. At the same time we have an abundance of that in Alberta but shipping costs from west to east makes it cheaper to buy from another country.

Not many banana, mangoe and pineapple farmers in Mainland Europe either.

The UK is a center of excellence in the pharmaceutical industries. Billions in R&D and a net exporter to the rest of the world. Of the top five pharmaceutical companies in the world, two of them are located in the UK: AstraZeneca and GlaxoSmithKline.

The report that was leaked is an old report compiled under the quisling regime of Theresa May.
Hence why I am surprised that there would be shortages of medicine.
 

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Hence why I am surprised that there would be shortages of medicine.
All part of project fear by the remainer MSM.
This could (and should) have been sorted out long ago.
Apparently a vast number of people in the UK depend on their constant pill supply.
I would say most of them are related to an unhealthy life style. The MSM have been pushing the issue of "mental health" as well, so a lack of anti-depressants could be catastrophic. Stop watching those silly daily soaps, FFS!
 

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Yes, we have no bananas.
Funnily enough, if there was a shortage of bananas in Germany people were more likely to protest than against their country being flooded with illegal migrants.
Fun fact: Bananas were the one thing that Eastern Germans bought most after the border was opened. Some said they needed them to lubricate their Trabant cars' 2-stroke engines...
 
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