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This morning, the founder of Kiton, Ciro Paone, has passed away.

In the picture with the master of shirts in Kiton, my friend Borrelli.

Both great influence for me.

Rest in pace

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Absolutely. I know that we've discussed this issue over the years, but social media and discussion fora (clothes, watches, shoes, other consumables) really exacerbates things. It plays into our need to keep up with other people, to have what other people have, to keep on acquiring things.
I've been after a cardi like Berlinmad posted in WDYBT, tried one on a couple of days before that...fitted great, 4ply cashmere. £500ish. Toyed with getting one but then got an overcoat, which tbf, I did need. I've been fighting myself with getting the cardi ever since Berlinmads post. I don't need it but I want it. But then how many times am I going to wear it? Too much money for sitting in home in, I wear a boiler suit for work. So it'd be down the pub or out. Which means it'd end up getting used like the 10 sports coats I have in a loose rotation. I had more or less accepted it was the cardi or the overcoat.

I really don't need it but I kinda want it a lot. Maybe the Jan sales, though I've banned myself from season sales for 3 or 4 years now. Sales=shit you don't need or really want for me.
 

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Absolutely. I know that we've discussed this issue over the years, but social media and discussion fora (clothes, watches, shoes, other consumables) really exacerbates things. It plays into our need to keep up with other people, to have what other people have, to keep on acquiring things.

I’ll add in the rise of online shopping with the demise of bricks and mortar stores. I try to buy one quality item that will last a lifetime over a half dozen cheap and disposable items, so in that sense I am doing well. But sometimes curiosity will still get the better of me. There is some hot new product out there that I’d like to check out, which is supposed to be a significant upgrade to whatever I already have. Since we don’t just go down to the store to look at it and satisfy that urge before deciding it really isn’t that much better than what we already have, the temptation is there to order it.
 

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If you've got kids, what did you do on the nappy front?

We did a mixture of cloth and disposable. Tried to get away from disposable, for the money waste as much as anything. I was raised with cloth diapers so it's obviously not a big deal to do.

Disposability is only part of the equation anyway. A safety razor blade is disposable, but is just turned back into more blades and the handle last forever, whereas a disposable razor is plastic, and a bit of it, which just goes into a landfill. Terrible. And a worse shave.

I still have tees from the 1970's in my closet, there's no reason to turn over clothes until they are good for rags. If I don't use them I carry them to a local charity called Samaritan House so they can continue on.
 

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I've lost count of the number of times that someone has started with Allen Edmonds or Loakes shoes and then, within six months, moved on to purchasing Edward Green, JL Paris or St Crispins. Or, in watch terms, been happy with Citizen or Seiko but in short order decided they "need" multiple Rolex models and start telling everyone their "grail" is Patek Philippe.

So sad. People get addicted and lose control. They rush into everything.

My shoo career was a lifelong journey. Heard about Johnny Lobb and Edward Green as a kid, and slowly climbed the ladder over decades. I wanted things desperately and dreamed about BIG John Lobb and wanted it with all my heart, but l always climbed the ladder slowly and opportunities eventually came up. Sometimes l wanted certain shoos so bad that it ached, and l couldn't sleep some nights, but it was always slow and steady.

It is good to be sensible. Could have got carried away over BIG Johnny Lobb and various shoos, but l took a big breath and said "calm down son, you don't need all those pairs".
 
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He looks like he got dressed at a JC Penny. What’s “luxurious” about this in any way, shape, or form?
Mr. “Permanent Style” is now down to trawling old episode of Friends to find a Tom Selleck character in ill-fitting JC Penny clothes who has been his life long inspiration and ‘style hero’.
 
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Mr. “Permanent Style” is now down to trawling old episode of Friends to find a Tom Selleck character in ill-fitting JC Penny clothes who has been him life long inspiration and ‘style hero’.
Yes I saw that. The right type of grey shirt and other nonsense. Plus or minus moustache.
 

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In fairness to Crappers...when you don t have anything else to do with your time other than come up with a bit of filler for your fans its very easy to overthink nothingness.
 

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But it was terribly sickly sweet.
Isn’t that one of the defining characteristics of an American sit-com?

As for Sellick, he was considered washed-up at the time. He’d done some b grade movies but was struggling to get any work. He was considered to cheesy for any serious roles and was looking like another William Shatner, desperate to stay relevant but unable to secure anything more respectful than infomercials and ‘where are they now’ cameos.
 

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That is true but a lot of popular era-defining shows all had theirs.

Myself, I enjoyed Cheers (and even more, Fraser) but the whole Sam/Diane thing and Fraser/ Lillith thing was meh
Cheers was good for a time and Fraser, which I came late to, was excellen. But they all lose steam after several series.

The first couple of series of Ellen was pretty good too with the banter in the bookshop.
Isn’t that one of the defining characteristics of an American sit-com?
Not sure now, as I've not watched one for over two decades now. I've not watched the Brit equivalents either.

Remember Moonlighting? That was quite good, well the first series was. That coincided with a lot of nostalgia for Motown and Stax.
 

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The whole cast of Boston Legal, including Shatner and Sellick are most definitely agreeably dressed
 

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Even though the 308 has about the same power-to-weight ratio as the modern Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ, it's still a very cool car.

I mean it's like any vintage car. It's about the vibe.

I was grabbing coffee with some work acquaintances the other week who are also somewhat into cars, and the one truth we all agree on is how much new cars are insanely better to drive in basically every respect.

But you can't deny the cool.
 

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I mean it's like any vintage car. It's about the vibe.

I was grabbing coffee with some work acquaintances the other week who are also somewhat into cars, and the one truth we all agree on is how much new cars are insanely better to drive in basically every respect.

But you can't deny the cool.

My dream car would be something with a cool and vintage shell with completely modern guys. I’ve seen some old Italian sports cars, 50s cruisers and 70s muscle cars retrofitted with an electric engine. Hopefully we will see more of this.

I tried doing this on a more modest scale with the two ‘project cars’ when I was younger, but it seems a lot more technologically possible and affordable now.
 

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Resto modding is definitely cool. I was really into it back in the day. I am more of the mind to just accept the shortcomings of vintage cars and just kind of roll with it these days. Probably because I'm getting lazier in my old age.
 

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My dream car would be something with a cool and vintage shell with completely modern guys. I’ve seen some old Italian sports cars, 50s cruisers and 70s muscle cars retrofitted with an electric engine. Hopefully we will see more of this.

I tried doing this on a more modest scale with the two ‘project cars’ when I was younger, but it seems a lot more technologically possible and affordable now.
Fully agree with this.
Walked past an open garage this morning which had a perfect looking white MGB with wire wheels and red leather interior. Immediately got me wondering how much one would cost and how easy to obtain, run etc. - then you start to think about decades-old technology in them, ride quality compared to what we’re used to now with power steeering etc.

Forget that fantasy - I’d prefer a vintage shell of some classic that has been completely retrofitted with new tech.

Dream big!
 
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I used to really like VW Beatles, til I traveled 30 miles in one. Chirst on a bike I was still shaking like a junkie doing turkey a week later.
 

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I used to love Lambrettas - then I went on the back of one. After years of cycling I felt far too low for comfort. I still love their look but I'd be very reluctant about getting on one ever again. (Vespas are probably equally dangerous.)
 

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I used to really like VW Beatles, til I traveled 30 miles in one. Chirst on a bike I was still shaking like a junkie doing turkey a week later.
There was a fad for them in the early 1990s, I even went up to that vintage dealer in Wigan who specialised in them. A nice little grey one, like the one Ted Bundy use to drive, it was nearly GBP 7,000. Then like you I traveled in one coming back from a gig in the middle of winter. It's not a driving experience, it's something that National Socialism dreamt up and only they would want to.
 

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Hello all, not sure if this is the right place but here we go anyway. I'm just went in for a penultimate fitting. This is what it looks like thus far. I feel like it's somewhat off so any feedback is welcome. The back is getting cleaned up and the trouser length is also getting adjusted. Buttoning point also seems too low? Thanks!
 

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Hello all, not sure if this is the right place but here we go anyway. I'm just went in for a penultimate fitting. This is what it looks like thus far. I feel like it's somewhat off so any feedback is welcome. The back is getting cleaned up and the trouser length is also getting adjusted. Buttoning point also seems too low? Thanks!
This is the DISAGREEABLE post where you post ugly and poor fitting garments that others post online.

Was it your attention to show us an ugly suit of yours?
 

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3,700+ pics like this, with all the right iGent hashtags. I felt sorta bad about making fun of the small-town #prepstyle guy in his cowboy boots because he seemed like a nice enough chap. But this is sheer mental illness:

 
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