Review Of My Formosa Suit From NMWA

Algernon Crisp said:
...social dangerous sodumites.

I'm not sure if that last one is a real word, but the official dictionary's 'rectomites' would have spoiled the alliteration.
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It may not be Sarto-approved, but I think that the official, albeit rather old-fashioned, word is "catamite".
 
I knew I liked AC, keeping the Sarto Lingo going even though the crusader himself is gone. Where'd he go by the way?
 
Something I noticed in reading the last few pages of the GNAT thread is the amount of comments saying "this is uncomfortable" or "how do I unsubscribe from this thread?" I wasn't going to bother bringing it up until someone else mentioned it. I found it a stark contrast to how thread arguments used to be handled. Are all the current crew there just a bunch of pantywaists? Their sensitive eyes just can't handle a few posts that aren't full of shitty in-jokes or overwhelming praise for another mediocre outfit?
 
SF and its threads have really polarized to being primarily show and tell extravaganzas with little room for anything else and not especially dissention or disagreement. Sure people differ on opinions but I am sure you have noticed that the mods jump in very quickly to move things along or derail things and there is way more "ooh, this is not what I want in this thread" or "i am uncomfortable"

Uncomfortable? How so? Are these people really uncomfortable because The Noodles continues to push the issue? They want to stick their head in the sand instead of asking the questions that are being asked here?

"How do I unsubscribe?" Really, you feel you need to unsubscribe? And by the way, you don't know how to do that or don't know how to navigate the forum?

The cult of NMWA is such that only good things can be said because Greg and crew are SF members.

But the sheep defended Gianni despite the proof provided so this should not be surprising at all.
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Grand Potentate Grand Potentate - I agree.

In the past on SF, in threads not involving an affiliate vendor such as NMWA, people would pile in to see what was happening (see any of Foo's threads, for example, or the ToJ fiasco) and they'd be eager to discuss, to offer opinions, or simply to make smart-arse comments.

However, when Noodles brought up the suit issue with NMWA in the Noodles GNAT, most posters started saying things like, "Well, this is uncomfortable", "How do I unsubscribe from this thread", "I think that we've heard enough about this" and so on. There was a very marked contrast between those comments and the usual behaviour involving a dispute between an SF member and a business.

As Noodles himself noted, it's quite a different attitude from the one that was taken when someone else posted pics of their David Reeves' suits - at that time, people were eagerly asking for more details, eagerly weighing in with their opinions, paging David Reeves to ask him how he was going to respond, and then following up later to ask for details on how things were resolved.
 
The thing about GNAT in particular is that, in the spirit of the thread, people interact with each other largely as they would in real life. So while it didn't make me uncomfortable to have that going on in, well, I guess, my thread, it did irritate me that the two went at each other in such a way. Though I suppose in real life, people get angry when interacting each other, emotions lead to escalation, and two adults end up shouting at each other (just as stupid in real life as it is on a forum). And--as bystanders--some feel uncomfortable as witnesses.

Keep in mind, GNAT is the only place where Noodles had people telling him not to buy more Formosas.
 
Greg's a pop Pitti icon and we know the lengths SF will defend the circus elite:

 
Chorn said:
Keep in mind, GNAT is the only place where Noodles had people telling him not to buy more Formosas.
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A fat lot of good that did

Chorn said:
The thing about GNAT in particular is that, in the spirit of the thread, people interact with each other largely as they would in real life.
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By being uncomfortable with pointed criticism and discussion? Do all these people work in HR?

Chorn said:
So while it didn't make me uncomfortable to have that going on in, well, I guess, my thread, it did irritate me that the two went at each other in such a way.
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Why on earth would that have irritated you? Serious question. I have no idea why either of their actions would have affected you emotionally in any way.
Chorn said:
Though I suppose in real life, people get angry when interacting each other, emotions lead to escalation, and two adults end up shouting at each other (just as stupid in real life as it is on a forum).
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First off, yes, obviously, people in real life get angry when treated like shit and they have a bunch of people gang up on them. Secondly, who shouted? I didn't even read a single person use caps for fucks sake. They were just giving each other the business, Greg more so than Noodles, like they should have been. Lastly, people being angry is not necessarily stupid. Greg is stupid. Noodles is stupid. Them getting angry at each other for a poorly handled situation on both sides is perfectly reasonable.
 
Noodles Noodles

Mate, you cocked up royally by not trying the suit on before having it altered. You shit the bed and then instead of trying to sort it out privately with Greg, you decided to air your dirty laundry in public. Whilst there is fault on both sides, can you blame the bloke for coming back hard at you when it's his business' reputation and his livelihood on the line? I think your conduct throughout shows you to be the whiny little manchild that your SF postings would lead a reasonable man to conclude that you are.

I guess that part of the blow back on you could well stem from the fact that you are a barely tolerable poster at the best of times, spewing inanity and drivel on a daily basis. Your posts remind of the results of someone throwing a large pail of liquefied faeces directly at an industrial fan and the ensuing mess, scrub as much as you like, remains for days later. Tiny shit flecks laying in wait to surprise their next victim who may inadvertently stumble upon them. The stench permeating the air months later, never letting anyone forget. Now, that you've decided to bring things to a head, people are out taking pot shots that they'd previously held their tongue over. On one hand, I must commend them as it's resulted in one less prize fuckwit populating SF but I'm also livid as it's meant that you've migrated over here. DW was a sanctuary away from a mental midget who thought it interesting to others to display his neuroses and overall failure at being a functional human for all the world to see. Now you've shown up and thrown a huge spanner in the works.

You remind me of the mentally challenged kid who gets to hang around with the cool kids as they feel desperately sorry for your plight. Sure, you may do some retarded things and in general cause embarrassment and and discomfort but hey "He's The Noodles. He can't help it. Be nice to him. He doesn't know any better." Well, to be perfectly glib, the sooner you fuck off from here, the better for me. The previous silence from your drivel was golden.

To conclude, from having read through your screeds of bullshit this pretty much sums up my thoughts...
(perhaps it could also be applied to my rant, too)
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I think people were uncomfortable with the level of anger being projected by two generally nice guys. I doubt if it were Foo and someone going at it anyone would've blinked an eye. It wasn't a response to criticism; it didn't happen the other two times Noodles brought up the jacket.
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It's sort of my thread (well, it's a lot of people's thread), and what I really like about it, as I mentioned earlier, is that people consistently interact with each other with the vast majority of social niceties from real life preserved. Instead, you had two grown men letting anger not just influence (which is fine) but dictate their interaction while a bunch of folks line up in the peanut gallery.

Would I want an entire forum to behave like this? Fuck no. That'd be boring as day old shit. And maintaining social niceties doesn't then suggest an absence of criticism; in real life, we criticize our friends all the time. This works because we generally trust that the other person isn't being critical simply (or mostly) because they enjoy being critical. The only real fawning (which is reactions along the lines of "AMAZING! Truly stupendous!, not things like "that's much, much better") that really ever happened in that thread was over Noodles Noodles and his Formosas (mostly, I think, to placate him knowing how obsessed he'll become if it isn't perfect).

Why criticism died out elsewhere on CM is, well, interesting and worthy of speculation. IN SWD, it isn't anywhere near as bad. My guess is that the normal lens with which we view criticism eroded, thus everyone took criticism negatively, even if it was presented respectfully and with well meaning intent because it's the internet, where we are socialized to assume that nothing is presented respectfully and with well meaning intent. So people stopped trying. And then at some point, the AV's became very good at managing hype/PR (I think the first that really excelled at it was ConradWu).
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Shouting has it's place, but it's usually a poor choice when some sort of resolution is desired. Great for emotional release though.
 
I moved all the posts out of the trainwreck thread into here as it didn't seem that either a) Noodles was ever getting back to SF, or b) anyone really had something to hide. If you want something removed just temp delete it and let me know. Apologies ahead of time if I blew up your spot.
 
Chorn said:
I think people were uncomfortable with the level of anger being projected by two generally nice guys. I doubt if it were Foo and someone going at it anyone would've blinked an eye. It wasn't a response to criticism; it didn't happen the other two times Noodles brought up the jacket.
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It's sort of my thread (well, it's a lot of people's thread), and what I really like about it, as I mentioned earlier, is that people consistently interact with each other with the vast majority of social niceties from real life preserved. Instead, you had two grown men letting anger not just influence (which is fine) but dictate their interaction while a bunch of folks line up in the peanut gallery.

Would I want an entire forum to behave like this? Fuck no. That'd be boring as day old shit. And maintaining social niceties doesn't then suggest an absence of criticism; in real life, we criticize our friends all the time. This works because we generally trust that the other person isn't being critical simply (or mostly) because they enjoy being critical. The only real fawning (which is reactions along the lines of "AMAZING! Truly stupendous!, not things like "that's much, much better") that really ever happened in that thread was over Noodles Noodles and his Formosas (mostly, I think, to placate him knowing how obsessed he'll become if it isn't perfect).

Why criticism died out elsewhere on CM is, well, interesting and worthy of speculation. IN SWD, it isn't anywhere near as bad. My guess is that the normal lens with which we view criticism eroded, thus everyone took criticism negatively, even if it was presented respectfully and with well meaning intent because it's the internet, where we are socialized to assume that nothing is presented respectfully and with well meaning intent. So people stopped trying. And then at some point, the AV's became very good at managing hype/PR (I think the first that really excelled at it was ConradWu).
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Shouting has it's place, but it's usually a poor choice when some sort of resolution is desired. Great for emotional release though.
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Criticism died because the capacity to handle it died. People can't let it affect their precious ego, so they just say 'whatever I do what I want'. No point for criticism if people don't accept it, or are even willing to think about it/discuss it. Stitches is to blame for his, during his skynet phase.
 
Chorn said:
My wife and I once ordered the same tie from Hober (she knows my taste). After both arrived and we realized what happened, I emailed Hober about some other things and mentioned this. He sent me another tie though he had no reason to.
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I hope you can get the same deal on your vasectomy
 
I've read this and skimmed the thread at SF. Thats 20 minutes of my life gone. No one to blame but me.

doodles - you may be too young - but ever seen a vinyl LP on a turntable that doesn't automatically turnoff. It goes around and around and makes a little noise sktick sktick sktick............

Like this thread - it adds nothing to the album.
 
Rambo said:
Something I noticed in reading the last few pages of the GNAT thread is the amount of comments saying "this is uncomfortable" or "how do I unsubscribe from this thread?" I wasn't going to bother bringing it up until someone else mentioned it. I found it a stark contrast to how thread arguments used to be handled. Are all the current crew there just a bunch of pantywaists? Their sensitive eyes just can't handle a few posts that aren't full of shitty in-jokes or overwhelming praise for another mediocre outfit?
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SF is a place for sockless unmen to fondle each other and their Gods of untailoring . Maybe arguments 'trigger' them, like happens to third wave feminazis? In future, to avoid upsetting igent sensibilities, arguments should be conducted in mime. This conflict has been brutal, Shia vs Sunni has got nothing on these guys.

Igents need their safe spaces too, you know.
 
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Algernon Crisp said:
SF is a place for sockless unmen to fondle each other and their Gods of untailoring . Maybe arguments 'trigger' them, like happens to third wave feminazis? In future, to avoid upsetting igent sensibilities, arguments should be conducted in mime. This conflict has been brutal, Shia vs Sunni has got nothing on these guys.

Igents need their safe spaces too, you know.
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Seeing as we're talking about shticks, maybe it's time for you to find a different one, instead of stealing Sarto's?
 
Chorn said:
I think people were uncomfortable with the level of anger being projected by two generally nice guys.
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maybe i just read noodles' posts selectively but since when is he considered a nice guy? from the posts i saw he comes across as uptight, anal, rude and above all clueless
 
Algernon Crisp said:
That really is pathetic. Whatever anyone thinks of your position you didn't do anything that merits a ban.

It's a forum fit only for shills, sheeple, and social dangerous sodumites.

I'm not sure if that last one is a real word, but the official dictionary's 'rectomites' would have spoiled the alliteration.
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They banned me for no discernible reason.
 
foxandhound said:
Noodles Noodles

Mate, you cocked up royally by not trying the suit on before having it altered. You shit the bed and then instead of trying to sort it out privately with Greg, you decided to air your dirty laundry in public. Whilst there is fault on both sides, can you blame the bloke for coming back hard at you when it's his business' reputation and his livelihood on the line? I think your conduct throughout shows you to be the whiny little manchild that your SF postings would lead a reasonable man to conclude that you are.

I guess that part of the blow back on you could well stem from the fact that you are a barely tolerable poster at the best of times, spewing inanity and drivel on a daily basis. Your posts remind of the results of someone throwing a large pail of liquefied faeces directly at an industrial fan and the ensuing mess, scrub as much as you like, remains for days later. Tiny shit flecks laying in wait to surprise their next victim who may inadvertently stumble upon them. The stench permeating the air months later, never letting anyone forget. Now, that you've decided to bring things to a head, people are out taking pot shots that they'd previously held their tongue over. On one hand, I must commend them as it's resulted in one less prize fuckwit populating SF but I'm also livid as it's meant that you've migrated over here. DW was a sanctuary away from a mental midget who thought it interesting to others to display his neuroses and overall failure at being a functional human for all the world to see. Now you've shown up and thrown a huge spanner in the works.

You remind me of the mentally challenged kid who gets to hang around with the cool kids as they feel desperately sorry for your plight. Sure, you may do some retarded things and in general cause embarrassment and and discomfort but hey "He's The Noodles. He can't help it. Be nice to him. He doesn't know any better." Well, to be perfectly glib, the sooner you fuck off from here, the better for me. The previous silence from your drivel was golden.

To conclude, from having read through your screeds of bullshit this pretty much sums up my thoughts...
(perhaps it could also be applied to my rant, too)
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Hall of Fame right here folks.
 
Well, now that I have been banned I have lost my entertainment value.

Thx Monkeyface Monkeyface for giving DWW some S#!t. I don't know him and his reaction to me was just a lot of anger. I wanted to resolve the situation and not get into a side match.
 
Hey noodles mind posting up pictures of you wearing the Formosa suits you have that you like vs the one you don't? Or do you hate them all now
 
The Noodles said:
It is what it is and I am moving on. I have resolved this infamous incident with the other party so I am not saying anything bad. I don't want to start another war.

I am only providing pix. You guys be the judge.
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Are you pear shaped?
Are you chinaman?
 
The Noodles said:
It is what it is and I am moving on. I have resolved this infamous incident with the other party so I am not saying anything bad. I don't want to start another war.

I am only providing pix. You guys be the judge.
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assuming you have the posture of the michelin man, the grey one makes you look just like what you are. which according to the suit scientists in the ongoing bespoke projects thread is what you should strive for

others might argue your alterations tailor sucks big time
 
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