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Why stop there. I say burn the old house and move to a new one that is appropriate for these shoos!!
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moving takes too much effort and stress, and i'd rather stay where l am. I like my neighbourhood too, one of the safest in Australia, and it is a really good area.
Would be good to get a modern highly lit house where those shoos can be displayed.
moving takes too much effort and stress, and i'd rather stay where l am. I like my neighbourhood too, one of the safest in Australia, and it is a really good area.
Would be good to get a modern highly lit house where those shoos can be displayed.
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I’m looking forward to your comparison to Florsheims
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I wrote the report last week, will post it soon.
In the meantime l will post pics of the new boys on my feet.
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Nah, too modern.
This is my style....really REALLY stuffy. Would have a old wood panelled rooms with shelves for my shoos with lights above that could be turned on. Of course, all my chairs would be bespoke leather chesterfields made from English red wood and stuffed with horse hair at 70K a pop.
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Funny that you chose a picture from a movie that mocks that same stuffy style.
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How many 'els' are there in 'lovely'? Beautiful shoes.
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You should see the BIG daddies l am trying to snag behind the scenes.....BIG daddies that make my eyes as big as dinner plates mate.....BIG daddies l have wanted for almost 20 years....BIG daddies to end all BIG daddies....BIG daddies to keep one asleep at night. Things are closed down in Italy right now, but l am negotiating a couple of dreams. When l get these daddies l will officially retire from `the shoo world', for l would have reached the highest levels possible with the real elaborate BIG daddies that men rarely see. You likely would not like them
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because they are shoos for the very few, not too many humans would understand them.
I am going out on a high note, and l am locking the doors of `the shoo world' behind me because there is no-one suitable to take over the role. The old guard needs to retire. I've tried to mentor up and coming shoomen, but none of them have what it takes. This new breed on internet shoomen lack the hardy stuff of the old shoomen in the days before the internet. The shoomen these days are all weak...weak as water. They have no idea what it was like in the old days when us shoomen had to earn our stripes.
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because they are shoos for the very few, not too many humans would understand them.I am going out on a high note, and l am locking the doors of `the shoo world' behind me because there is no-one suitable to take over the role. The old guard needs to retire. I've tried to mentor up and coming shoomen, but none of them have what it takes. This new breed on internet shoomen lack the hardy stuff of the old shoomen in the days before the internet. The shoomen these days are all weak...weak as water. They have no idea what it was like in the old days when us shoomen had to earn our stripes.
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Australian Olympians are donning Gina Rinehart's gold Rossi boots while some politicians are turning on RM Williams
By national regional affairs reporter Jane Normanhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/topic/fashion
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Australian Olympians sporting Gina Rinehart's golden Rossi boots are the latest example of the power and influence at stake for billionaires buying up big brand names. (Instagram: Lani Pallister/S. Kidman and Co)
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As they stepped aboard the luxury yacht, about to set sail on the Seine, it wasn't our Olympians' hard-won medals glinting in the setting sun — it was their golden footwear.
The exclusive soiree had been organised by the billionaire backer of Australia's swimming team, Gina Rinehart, and along with their invitation to attend was a request to wear the Rossi boots she had gifted them.
Founded in Adelaide in 1910, the heritage branded working boot is the latest acquisition of Rinehart's cattle company S. Kidman and Co, which also counts Driza-Bone oilskin jackets among its stable of brands.
Sailing past Parisian landmarks, Australia's Olympians became walking advertisements for the boot Rinehart purchased for an undisclosed sum in December, demonstrating her "commitment to preserving iconic national brands".
Gina Rinehart and Australia's Olympic medallists posed for photos in their gold Rossi boots, on their cruise along the Seine River. (Supplied: Gina Rinehart)
"Acquiring Rossi Boots is not just a business decision; it’s a recognition of our national history," Rinehart said at the time.
"We are pleased to add this iconic brand to our growing portfolio."
This pursuit into Australian apparel has, once again, put Rinehart in competition with fellow billionaire mining magnate Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest.
Forrest snapped up another iconic boot brand, RM Williams, for $190 million in 2020, followed by the hatmaker Akubra in late 2023.
There's no love lost between the rich listers, who both spent much of their early lives in the red dirt of the West Australian outback and went on to make their fortunes in mining.
But this latest battle is about more than boots — it's about power and influence.
Gina Rinehart was front and centre watching the Australians in the pool at the Olympics in Paris, alongside Dawn Fraser and Swimming Queensland director Jeff Winnington. (Supplied: Gina Rinehart)
Boots 'a way of buying influence'
Through her company's sartorial acquisitions, Rinehart's reach — particularly into the conservative side of politics — is on public display.At $250 a pop, Rossis are about half the price of a pair of RM Williams, and are typically worn by workers on mining and construction sites.
RMs, however, are the boot of choice for most male federal politicians, including the prime minister (you only have to tune into Question Time to see the row of leather boots on the frontbenches).
Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has long been an RM Williams man, but more recently has been stepping out in Rossi boots.
He even paid a special visit to the Rossi Boots stall at Beef Week in Rockhampton in May, following what his office termed an RM's 'blow out' at the event, going on to proudly display his pair (a more classic brown, rather than gold) alongside S. Kidman and Co. CEO and former Northern Territory chief minister, Adam Giles.
Dutton also brought them onto the world stage when he travelled to Israel earlier this month and was snapped sitting beside President Isaac Herzog, with Rossi's recognisable red tab peeking out.
At Beef Week in May, and in Israel earlier this month, Dutton was spotted in his Rossi boots. (Supplied)
It's a "form of homage" according to Brand Agency CEO Steve Harris, who says Dutton has a "well-known" allegiance to Rinehart.
Indeed, Dutton – who reportedly made an overnight dash to Perth to make a brief appearance at the mining magnate's 70th birthday bash in February – has described Rinehart as "a dear friend" and a "great Australian".
"He's certainly trying to establish a close relationship for financial purposes, for donation purposes, so it's probably a strange way of buying influence," Harris says.
"But if he was wearing a competitor's boot, I'm sure she would ask — and probably has asked — 'Why aren't you wearing my product?'"
Dutton has described Rinehart as a friend, and has attended several events organised by the mining magnate. He appeared in a promotional video for Hancock Prospecting's national mining day last year. (YouTube: Hancock Prospecting)
Dutton isn't the only federal politician sporting Rinehart's brands.
Scan Pauline Hanson's socials and you'll find a promotion for "a massive 20 per cent discount off Rossi Boots and Drizabone" for the month of May. Rinehart had attended a One Nation fundraiser, as the guest of honour, a few months earlier.
And there appears to be a political tone to these fashion allegiances.
Barnaby Joyce ditched his RMs over renewables
Climate and energy policy is perhaps where Rinehart's footprint has most left its mark.A long-time proponent of nuclear power, Rinehart has questioned the cost of reaching net zero emissions by 2050 and labelled wind turbines "bird-killing wind generators".
Forrest, on the other hand, owns Squadron Energy, one of Australia's biggest renewables companies (building wind turbines at scale), and promotes clean energy with an almost evangelical zeal.
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It's probably for this reason that Forrest struggles to get a face-to-face meeting with Dutton when he's in Canberra.
Some Nationals have become wary of renewables, and Forrest's ambitious plans, objecting to their own government offering subsidies to the billionaire's green hydrogen venture during the 2022 election campaign.
Now in Opposition, the Coalition has adopted nuclear as part of its energy policy, and within the party, you'll find no bigger opponent to the expansion of large-scale renewables in the regions than the Member for New England, Barnaby Joyce.
"[Forrest] is putting swindle factories or so-called wind farms all over our area," Joyce told radio station 2GB in May.
"I don't mind him as a person but these wind farms, swindle factories … they're just killing us out in the country."
Joyce is also a close friend of Rinehart's.
He's now let his boots do the talking, replacing the RMs he was wearing just last year, with a pair of American-owned Ariat cowboy boots.
Barnaby Joyce pictured in Question Time, wearing RM Williams in November 2023 (left) and Ariats in May 2024 (right). (ABC News: Matt Roberts)
These boots were made for walking, but they're also talking
While fashion can be dismissed as trivial, what you wear says a lot about what you do, who you are and what you stand for.Former US secretary of state Madeleine Albright famously used her brooch collection (now on display at the Museum of American Diplomacy) to convey foreign policy messages, while the late Queen Elizabeth II deployed soft diplomacy with sartorial flair.
Julie Bishop, as Australia's foreign minister, would also speak in code through her fashion choices.
Julie Bishop always wore red when meeting with representatives from China, for example. She told the AFR the one time she wore gold, Wang Yi asked her why. (AAP: Mick Tsikas)
So what are politicians trying to say by wearing these billionaire-owned boots?
RM Williams boots, which sell for around $650, were founded in 1932 — also in Adelaide — and have long been considered the dress boot among farmers and pastoralists.
But they have also become ubiquitous in boardrooms across the country among those keen to project an image of wealth while simultaneously tapping into the "working man ethos".
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This is a trend that started in the 1990s, according to Harris, when media mogul Kerry Stokes and "the original gangster" of business, News Limited CEO Ken Cowley, rescued the beleaguered brand.
When they started wearing the boot, their employees and associates followed.
"If you wanted to do business with them, if you were in meetings with them, or if you were of their ilk, then you started wearing RMs," Harris says.
"And that, to me, is the DNA of why bankers, stockbrokers, financiers are wearing RM Williams boots. It dates back to the 1990s, not the much longer brand heritage of RM Williams making saddles and country accoutrements."
The bootmaker's icon status was cemented when Australian-born actor and "global boot ambassador" Hugh Jackman wore nothing but a pair of RMs in an ad campaign in 2020.
Hugh Jackman Gets Comfortable, in an ad for RM Williams.
In buying the brand, Forrest's company Tattarang ensured the boots would continue to be made locally, and expanded the South Australian workshop — which now employs 393 staff — before adding a new women's line.
It also partnered with TAFE SA to offer traineeships in both leatherwork and industrial sewing "so that a new generation can learn the skills that RM Williams is keeping alive".
"We care about our industry and craftspeople. Since Tattarang’s acquisition in 2020, RM Williams has invested $8 million in equipment and the floor space for the women's line has expanded by 10,000 square metres," a Tattarang spokesperson said in a statement.
Nicola and Andrew Forrest at the RM Williams factory in Salisbury. (ABC News: Stacey Lee)
Rossi's Kilburn factory is about 15 kilometres down the road from RM Williams but under the brand's previous owners, manufacturing was sent offshore to countries including India and Indonesia.
S. Kidman and Co. did not respond to the ABC's inquiries about the number of staff it employs, where its full range of boots is made, or its future plans for manufacturing.
Brands are bigger than Gina Rinehart and Twiggy Forrest
Despite any feelings Rinehart and Forrest may engender, or any controversy their views may attract, Harris reckons the brands are ultimately bigger than their billionaire owners.And history shows that influential players can have some sway over the decisions of Australian brands — just ask federal MP Bob Katter, who briefly boycotted Akubra in 2015 when the company announced it had stopped using local rabbit skins for its iconic hats.
Bob Katter threatened to withdraw his lifelong support from Akubra in 2015. (AAP: Glenn Hunt)
If RM Williams or Rossi were to experience a dip in sales for any reason, Rinehart and Forrest could potentially rely on their own employees.
Staff working for their mining empires are offered discounts and encouraged to wear the boots owned by their respective bosses.
Ultimately, Harris says the images of Olympic medallists wearing their Rossi Boots on the Seine are a golden marketing opportunity for Rinehart.
"The publicity and promotion you generate by having some of the most successful, beautiful, high-profile people in Australia wearing that product would subvert any brand damage in my view," he says.
Olympic swimmer Elijah Winnington was among those donning the gold Rossi boots in Paris. (Instagram: Kyle Chalmers)
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Wow, what a fascinating article. I remember the days when R.M.Williams were a small brand and were really hard to find, the brand had so much mystique and very few city people wore them. Much of there sales were done in the country. The company has expanded so much since, and not for the better either. Proud they are still made in Australia.
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Here is the guy who invented the original porridge jaw shoos. He is starting to price some of his shoos in the Lattanzi league these days with one norvegese calfskin boot selling for 14,000 euro. Like with Lattanzi, he must have strong belief in his product to be able to charge what he does.
One of his best masterful creations in Lattanzi mode.
The `porridge jaw shoos' Branchini was famous for.
porridge jaw shoos = massively extended soles with snouts with heavy stitching
More Branchini creations
One of his best masterful creations in Lattanzi mode.
The `porridge jaw shoos' Branchini was famous for.
porridge jaw shoos = massively extended soles with snouts with heavy stitching
More Branchini creations
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A really good video explaining the downside of the AE recrafting program, and why seeing a cobbler can sometimes be better. Of course he emits a few important facts,but his video is refreshing and interesting.
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Very informative. If AE make those errors, other manufacturers must, too.
As a topy user, it's not an experience I have ever undergone.
What about other posters?
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That's why l use topy.
1). Sending to cobbler can change shape of shoe when recrafted
2). Numerous resoles will grind down the welt so a new rebuild is eventually needed, but manufacturer will not necessarily do it, and a rebuild by cobbler can change fit of shoe.
Because these shoes are factory made, rebuilds are limited and can have effect on shoe. Factory constructions are not necessarily designed to be a lifetime shoe.
Besides...who wants to risk losing shoes in the mail by sending them back to workshop/factory for rebuilds. Topy solves so many problems, especially for a factory shoe.
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Topy! Topy! Topy! (Sorry I'm watching the DNC and thinking up new cheers for them.)
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Never used one. With my current rotation, I need a resole on ~2 pairs a year. Always send them back to maker.
A large part of what I like about the resole, is the rebuild, that you don't get with topy. But I do see the impractical things around it.
A large part of what I like about the resole, is the rebuild, that you don't get with topy. But I do see the impractical things around it.
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Topy's are good becauze:
1 - a topy preserves the original sole and keeps it nice and meaty. A sole without a topy gets all thin, so one can wear a shoe for months with with little meat on the sole (don't like that feeling).
2 - a topy can stop some people from wearing down the tip of their shoos to the welt quickly. Lulu plates on the toe are no good either because it cause slippage for some people who take giant strides.
Had one G&G shoe that got worn down to the welt after 5 wears.
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but are topy's alpha enough though. Shouldn't you be chucking the old shoos into a ritual bonfire and start afresh, building patina from scratch, and more importantly building character in the process?? Dissapointed.
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Many great men have worn a topy on their shoos.
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I'll try it out, next time I need a resole.
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Were they really alpha men, these so called great men you speak of? Would they walk around wearing just socks while the shoos were worked on?
Weak.
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If you rotate your shoes and tree them, and if they are a proper fit in the first place, the topied upper will mould to your foot and will not need a rebuild. Give it a try, Sirloin.
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Yes, the tips can wear very quickly, and although the uppers are still in sound shape the overall look can be messy and ugly quite rapidly.
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I used to Topy everything. I'm a great man.
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The idea is you Topy shoes after a very few wears. Lasts* forever.
* Small shoe wordplay
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You're a Melbourne man. I remember all the Melbourne men gong to work in their suits in the 70's - a sea of black Loakes, Grensons and probably Florsheims, most with a topy. It was etched in my kind and started my shoo ambitions. The topy made for a nice look, nice and neat with no mashed up front of the toes etc. I'd always look for the Melbourne men with the topy.
Yep, don't let a cobbler rough up your beautiful soles. You buy the shoos so you have the privilege of roughing those beautiful new soles yourself.
A confession = none of my highend norvegese and bentivegna Santoni have topy, nor do any R.M.Williams (not that l know where any of my RMs are anymore...haven't seen a pair in almost 20 years).
All my other shoes have topy.
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Bought some good ones tonight, BIG daddies the lot of `em. A peek!
Shoos buried in the ground for years in order to get a natural patina. Have wanted one of these for 17 years since Lattanzi first started burying them in pits for 4 years.
I also bought my dream shoo, one of Lattanzi's best, the norvegese monk with beautiful subtle antiquing. A very exciting monkstrap that one. Look at how classy and elegant Lattanzi does his norvegese - no-one does norvegese like he does it.
Have been working out a deal for weeks. These should fit o.k.
Shoos buried in the ground for years in order to get a natural patina. Have wanted one of these for 17 years since Lattanzi first started burying them in pits for 4 years.
I also bought my dream shoo, one of Lattanzi's best, the norvegese monk with beautiful subtle antiquing. A very exciting monkstrap that one. Look at how classy and elegant Lattanzi does his norvegese - no-one does norvegese like he does it.
Have been working out a deal for weeks. These should fit o.k.
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I think you said I might not like these, Shooey. You were right. In the pic of the cap-toe, the 'patina ' looks as if a child confused black polish with brown. But the important thing is that you enjoy the idea and you like them. So wear them well.
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^^^
Sammy, these type of things are for people who are very advanced. Few are able to understand Lattanzi's genius mind, but for those who do....
Do you like the norvegese monk? That is the most advanced shoo of all, it really illustrates Lattanzi's greatness. That is going to be an amazing shoo, will probably become my favourite. Will develop a nice rich cherry patina over time.
Sammy, these type of things are for people who are very advanced. Few are able to understand Lattanzi's genius mind, but for those who do....
Do you like the norvegese monk? That is the most advanced shoo of all, it really illustrates Lattanzi's greatness. That is going to be an amazing shoo, will probably become my favourite. Will develop a nice rich cherry patina over time.
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The monk doesn't have the fake patina, but what is that wrinkling on the strap on the shoe on the right?
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Lattanzi uses unique leather so sometimes it shows these features, but it looks more obvious with the camera flash where-as in real life it will hardly be noticeable. That type of leather will develop a natural patina over a short time, will be stunning to look at, and very highly quality leather. Lattanzi knows exactly what he is doing, and shoo connoisseurs understand it too, but it is not for most people...they want the usual boring looking leather you see on most decent shoos.
I know those shoos are probably too advanced for many
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,but l am also eyeing off some real classics that are absolutely STUNNING!!! I really love shoos in medium brown, and I especially love single monks with a decent sized buckle. Here is a sneak peak of a pair l may get in the near future. Look at that amazing leather, is has that unique glistening leather that only the finest shoos are made from.
I am also eyeing off a stunning wingtip and a perfectly sculptured captoe oxford in a gorgeous brown (like the Edward Green 202 last, but far nicer). There is also a lovely loafer, but l need to be careful not to get addicted, too easy to get carried away.
It is hard to wear anything else but Lattanzi. I have to force myself to wear Vass and BIG Johnny Lobb etc. I do wear Vass as mainly Winter shoos, but l did indulge the other day by wearing the Vass Budapester (wingtip) in antique medium brown boxcalf and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. I really like the shell cordovan Vass for the winter. Soon l visit the country, and when l do l am gonna bust out the tan Trickers wingtip and really make a day of it - it's a real rip snorta). Really enjoy old classic BIG boat wingtips in browns.
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Yes. That monk looks a lot better.Lattanzi uses unique leather so sometimes it shows these features, but it looks more obvious with the camera flash where-as in real life it will hardly be noticeable. That type of leather will develop a natural patina over a short time, will be stunning to look at, and very highly quality leather. Lattanzi knows exactly what he is doing, and shoo connoisseurs understand it too, but it is not for most people...they want the usual boring looking leather you see on most decent shoos.
I know those shoos are probably too advanced for many
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I am also eyeing off a stunning wingtip and a perfectly sculptured captoe oxford in a gorgeous brown (like the Edward Green 202 last, but far nicer). There is also a lovely loafer, but l need to be careful not to get addicted, too easy to get carried away.
It is hard to wear anything else but Lattanzi. I have to force myself to wear Vass and BIG Johnny Lobb etc. I do wear Vass as mainly Winter shoos, but l did indulge the other day by wearing the Vass Budapester (wingtip) in antique medium brown boxcalf and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. I really like the shell cordovan Vass for the winter. Soon l visit the country, and when l do l am gonna bust out the tan Trickers wingtip and really make a day of it - it's a real rip snorta). Really enjoy old classic BIG boat wingtips in browns.
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If I had a dollar, for every time you called 'going out in style, this my last pair' 
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The monks do look nice. Aquired taste, but versatile..
Reminds me a bit of my pair of Church's. Westbury in dark brown, with a brass buckle. I'm a rebel and wear them jeans - but a trouser/jacket pairing or even a suit, would work too.
.The monks do look nice. Aquired taste, but versatile..
Reminds me a bit of my pair of Church's. Westbury in dark brown, with a brass buckle. I'm a rebel and wear them jeans - but a trouser/jacket pairing or even a suit, would work too.
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C'monLattanzi uses unique leather so sometimes it shows these features, but it looks more obvious with the camera flash where-as in real life it will hardly be noticeable. That type of leather will develop a natural patina over a short time, will be stunning to look at, and very highly quality leather. Lattanzi knows exactly what he is doing, and shoo connoisseurs understand it too, but it is not for most people...they want the usual boring looking leather you see on most decent shoos.
I know those shoos are probably too advanced for many
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I am also eyeing off a stunning wingtip and a perfectly sculptured captoe oxford in a gorgeous brown (like the Edward Green 202 last, but far nicer). There is also a lovely loafer, but l need to be careful not to get addicted, too easy to get carried away.
It is hard to wear anything else but Lattanzi. I have to force myself to wear Vass and BIG Johnny Lobb etc. I do wear Vass as mainly Winter shoos, but l did indulge the other day by wearing the Vass Budapester (wingtip) in antique medium brown boxcalf and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. I really like the shell cordovan Vass for the winter. Soon l visit the country, and when l do l am gonna bust out the tan Trickers wingtip and really make a day of it - it's a real rip snorta). Really enjoy old classic BIG boat wingtips in browns.
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. They are lovely shoes but the only thing too advanced for people is the price.
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If I had a dollar, for every time you called 'going out in style, this my last pair'
Just brilliant mate. It's my last one.
You get it....versatility. Those monks are so versatile.
Love those Church's Westbury, got numerous pairs, one of my favourite shoos ever.
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C'mon
you should have seen the customs duties they shook me down for, it was so bad that wanted to puke. Have never felt so violated in my life. Just like dealing with the mafia.
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I was wondering if the worlds shoe shops have a list like the Casinos and online gambling where you can get yourself banned (self exclusion) as an addicted gambler.
Asking for an Australian Friend who buys shoes.
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Social workers could perhaps get involved, too. On second thoughts, shrinks could maybe help.I was wondering if the worlds shoe shops have a list like the Casinos and online gambling where you can get yourself banned (self exclusion) as an addicted gambler.
Asking for an Australian Friend who buys shoes.
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I can only imagine. We get hosed with them here in Canadia too. I think it is 30% on shoos plus VAT