The War in the Ukraine

Who Will Win

  • Ukraine

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • Russia

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Nato

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • The West

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • America

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Right

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Wrong

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Good

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Evil

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Putin

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Zelensky

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • God

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Prigozhin

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Chechnya

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Trump

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
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Grand Potentate said:
Interesting that the apartheid-ites are trying to turn away from the nazis.
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Ukraine didn't attend UN vote on Israeli occupation after Netanyahu called Zelensky

Zelensky wants "to give a chance to the relationship with Netanyahu," a Ukrainian official said.
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"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a phone call late Friday asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to vote against a UN General Assembly resolution that calls on the International Court of Justice to issue a legal opinion on the consequences of Israel's occupation of the Palestinian territories..

  • During the call with Netanyahu, Zelensky said that in exchange for voting against the resolution or abstaining, he wanted to hear how the new Israeli government would change its policy and provide Ukraine with defense systems against Russian attacks using ballistic missiles and Iranian-made drones, a Ukrainian official told Axios.
  • The Ukrainian official said Netanyahu didn’t commit to anything but said he was ready to discuss Zelensky’s requests in the future.
  • According to the Ukrainian official, Zelensky didn’t like the answer and didn’t agree to vote against the resolution or abstain. Instead, he instructed Ukraine’s ambassador to the UN to not attend the vote."

Ukrainian rights to an independent nation trumps Palestinian rights to an independent nation if only someone sends some anti-aircraft defence.
 
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CNN Exclusive: A single Iranian attack drone found to contain parts from more than a dozen US companies | CNN Politics

Parts made by more than a dozen US and Western companies were found inside a single Iranian drone downed in Ukraine last fall, according to a Ukrainian intelligence assessment obtained exclusively by CNN.
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"Of the 52 components Ukrainians removed from the Iranian Shahed-136 drone, 40 appear to have been manufactured by 13 different American companies, according to the assessment.

The remaining 12 components were manufactured by companies in Canada, Switzerland, Japan, Taiwan, and China, according to the assessment."

Who makes the parts for Western arms? Oh right...
 
Fwiffo said:
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Ukraine war: Western allies to send fighting vehicles to Kyiv

Germany and the US agree to join France in boosting Ukraine's military capability on the battlefield.
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Honestly I thought this was already done when former Eastern bloc countries were sending Soviet tanks.

Canada was sending armoured vehicles last year. Maybe there are different classes.
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Western allies have already sent a range of armored vehicles, like the Bushmasters and the old M113 APCs. Zelensky has been asking for western tanks, but that would also require a lot of training and support equipment (lots and lots of mechanics and weapons specialists, etc). The Western compromise is to send IFVs - armed and armored for offensive operations. More agile than tanks but with antitank weapons. Also a LOT easier to maintain and train on.
 
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Ukraine war: The Christmas ceasefire that wasn't

Few in Ukraine's eastern city of Bakhmut expected Russia's declared truce to be matched with action.
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"It's hard to imagine the shelling being more intense, but Sergiy claims it's relatively calm.

'Do you see that missing roof?' he asks. 'That was loud. Where the bus depot was hit, that was loud. When this lamp post was hit, that was loud. So, this is quiet.' "
 
(#) DOD- More Than $3 Billion in Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine:



- 50 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles with 500 TOW anti-tank missiles and 250,000 rounds of 25mm ammunition



- 100 M113 Armored Personnel Carriers;



-55 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs)



(#) - 138 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs)



- 18 155mm self-propelled Howitzers and 18 ammunition support vehicles



- 70,000 155mm artillery rounds



- 500 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds



- 1,200 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems



(#) - 36 105mm towed Howitzers and 95,000 105mm artillery rounds;



- 10,000 120mm mortar rounds



- Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS);



- RIM-7 missiles for air defense



- 4,000 Zuni aircraft rockets



(#) - Approximately 2,000 anti-armor rockets



- Sniper rifles, machine guns, and ammunition for grenade launchers and small arms



- Claymore anti-personnel munitions



- Night vision devices and optics



- Spare parts and other field equipment
 
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Ukraine war: Russia controls most of pounded salt mine town, Soledar, says UK

There has been fighting near entrances to 200km-long tunnels, which could be used for infiltration.
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"Meanwhile, a senior military official from the US Department of Defense said on Monday there was a 'good portion' of Soledar in Russian hands.
Fighting around Bakhmut has been going on for months, and the US official described the most recent exchanges as 'savage'. Two British nationals have gone missing in the region and were last seen heading to Soledar."

Should volunteers really go that close to the front line?

"But a US official said last week that Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Wagner Group's founder, wants control of the large salt and gypsum mines in the area."

People still fight over salt mines?
 
Canada to purchase U.S. missile defence system for Ukraine

"Canada will purchase a National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS) for Ukraine... The release said the donation would cost approximately $406 million"

Is it better than Patriot?

"The missile defence system was designed and developed jointly by the American defence company Raytheon and Norway-based Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace."

Raytheon makes Patriot too.
 
Fwiffo said:
Canada to purchase U.S. missile defence system for Ukraine

"Canada will purchase a National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS) for Ukraine... The release said the donation would cost approximately $406 million"

Is it better than Patriot?

"The missile defence system was designed and developed jointly by the American defence company Raytheon and Norway-based Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace."

Raytheon makes Patriot too.
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These systems are far more effective against aerial targets such as aircraft and cruise missiles than ballistic missiles. On the other hand, the Patriot has a better record of engaging ballistic missiles than slow-flying cruise missiles and drones.
 
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Russia's war on Ukraine latest: Russia puts top general in charge of invasion

* Russian forces struggled to cement their control of the small east Ukrainian salt town of Soledar after taking heavy casualties, a day after the leader of the Wagner contract militia said the town was under Russian control. * Soledar has symbolic, military and commercial value for Russia and...
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Sergey Surovikin demoted.
 
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Ukraine war: Bakhmut defenders plea for Western tanks

Ukrainians on the front lines call for hundreds of modern tanks, as the West debates new deliveries.
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"But the war has also revealed the limitation of tanks - most clearly in the first weeks of the conflict when nimble Ukrainian infantry destroyed many huge Russian armoured columns with shoulder-launched rockets.

'In the old days, it was all about tanks. Now it's about these new rocket systems,' said Volodymr. But the coming months could yet see Western tanks - if deployed quickly, and in large numbers - play a decisive role."

It's about rocket artillery or tanks? Last summer there was an article about how Ukrainian wheeled vehicles combined with anti armour infantry weapons were more effective than Russian tracked vehicles.
 
Fwiffo said:
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Ukraine war: Bakhmut defenders plea for Western tanks

Ukrainians on the front lines call for hundreds of modern tanks, as the West debates new deliveries.
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It's about rocket artillery or tanks? Last summer there was an article about how Ukrainian wheeled vehicles combined with anti armour infantry weapons were more effective than Russian tracked vehicles.
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Its now the muddy season, called “bezdorizhzhya” in Ukrainian and “rasputitsa” in Russian. In any language it turns warfare — especially offensive operations — into a slow, arduous slog, exposing troops and equipment to enemy fire.

Tanks aren’t the kings of the battlefield that they once were, thanks to portable antitank weapons. But in some seasons they are about the only only way to get heavy weapons up supporting infantry.
 
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Ukraine War: Zelensky adviser resigns over Dnipro remarks

Oleksiy Arestovych initially said air defences caused a Russian missile to hit an apartment block.
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"Mr Arestovych is one of the most public Ukrainian faces of the war, using his YouTube channel to hold daily discussions on issues related to the conflict. The channel has more than 1.6 million subscribers, and his videos often have more than 200,000 views. Unusually for Ukrainian officials, he speaks in Russian rather than Ukrainian."
 


Quick Germany, authorise the shipment of western Leopard 2s. Mankind's freedom and democracy is at stake.
 
Russian confirmed that they are trying to ‘modernise’ some ancient T62 tanks as they are running out of tanks to replace losses in Ukraine.

 
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Tanzanian killed in Ukraine: We told him not to go

Nemes Tarimo, who was in prison in Russia, joined the Wagner Group to get a pardon, his family says.
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"The family says that Tarimo, who had ambitions to be an MP with the opposition Chadema party, had been in Moscow as an ICT master's student at the Russian Technological University. But he was then imprisoned some time after January 2021 for what were described as drugs-related offences.
Last year, he was enticed with a deal: sign up and be pardoned or stay in prison."
 
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