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The plane that shrank the world

I've only been on a 747 once. I was on a DC10 when I was a kid. Piano bar on a plane seems so alien in this era of nickel and dime no frills travel.
The 747 is still the queen of the skies. I can't count how many trips I've done on one. Pretty heartbroken it's going away.

Was just on a BA 744 in April.

I'm looking forward to checking out the Emirates A380 lounge though in March.
 

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Just visited the airbus factory today here in Toulouse. Ms. Fxh is a bit of a plane nut!!

Was good. They have two Concordes. You can get inside one of them. Bloody small inside. But magnificent. We were pissed off that they didn’t have the noses down. Doesn’t seem like concord without the nose down.
 

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There’s a Concorde in a flight museum near here where I am in Scotland. Dunbar. Small town but a bloody and long history
 

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Wasn't this an EWR-HKG flight? How did you fly all the way to Newfoundland? Weren't they supposed to fly west towards the Pacific?
Going northeast? I would say going over Quebec or more likely Ontario makes more sense. Northwest.
It is interesting as the route is more like you say. If they could not return to a major centre your choices are limited. Kujjuak is a wasteland and I'm not sure the 777 could land. Iqaluit can handle a 777 as lived there when Boing did cold weather testing of one in British Airways livery. Has a hospital too. Weather could have been an issue. Goose Bay has a military length runway and a hospital and would be closer on the flight path. Hospital too.

The flight path. It is over the pole and Labrador is not that far away.

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Here is where Flight 179 was when it was diverted.

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That is baffling. YYZ-HKG and I think even from YUL to Asia go west. EWR is one hour away from these two places and goes east. I know everyone goes to the north pole to save time but AC starts coming back down around Japan.
 

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It is interesting as the route is more like you say. If they could not return to a major centre your choices are limited. Kujjuak is a wasteland and I'm not sure the 777 could land. Iqaluit can handle a 777 as lived there when Boing did cold weather testing of one in British Airways livery. Has a hospital too. Weather could have been an issue. Goose Bay has a military length runway and a hospital and would be closer on the flight path. Hospital too.

The flight path. It is over the pole and Labrador is not that far away.

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Here is where Flight 179 was when it was diverted.

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is that to avoid high traffic areas? why not take a straight shot to HKG?
 

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is that to avoid high traffic areas? why not take a straight shot to HKG?
It's a great circle route, the shortest course between two points on the surface of a sphere. Saves time and fuel. About two hours shorter a flight
 

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It's a great circle route, the shortest course between two points on the surface of a sphere. Saves time and fuel. About two hours shorter a flight
Makes sense. I was looking at it on the flat map.
 

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As far as I know only Silk and Fiji air were flying 737 Max 8 - into Oz.

Australia’s aviation safety authority CASA has suspended the Boeing 737 MAX 8 from flying in or out of Australia
 

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737 Max 9 also grounded in North America. First we didn't ground anything and stood against the world and now we ground one more model than everyone else.
 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/recording-lion-air-jet-crash-problems-1.5063969

Basically pilots don't know how to fly this plane. They said here the previous flight crew encountered the same issue and managed to get around the automated anti-stall measures.

"The manufacturer has said there is a documented procedure to handle the situation. A different crew on the same plane the evening before encountered the same problem but solved it after running through three checklists, according to the November report.

But they did not pass on all of the information about the problems they encountered to the next crew, the report said."
 
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