Domestic & International Terrorism

Lord Buckley said:
It is perhaps at last dawning on our complicit media, police, MP's, local councils and celebrity elites that yes, the UK is may be on the verge of a positive loop of tit-for-tat and revenge attacks.
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There is no political will amongst our leaders to solve the jihadi problem. It may actually suit some politicians in a divide-and-rule, Gladio way.

We know there is a list of three thousand suspects.

Other countries 'disappear' people.

Other countries have tough reprisals against the culprits homes and family.

As far as I am aware, we don't do any of that.

As regards tit for tat, we are either phlegmatic or apathetic or conditioned depending on your point of view.
 
Kingstonian said:
We know there is a list of three thousand suspects.
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Officially, it is 25,000 and some French dude went as far as 35,000.

Either figure is wishful thinking.

The point of resolution is coming, we need not worry about ineffectual politicians, nature will soon do away with them.

Everything now is about the decisive moment, which is a lot sooner than many think. Those who thought they would be long dead, or could slip out somewhere clean are in for major shock, when they're going to be held to account in their life times. They should start worrying.
 
Apparently the "stampede" that followed the failed explosion in the metro injured more people than the device going off.
Which goes to show that all the uttered slogans about showing no fear after such attacks are make believe.
All you need is a large crowd, a full blown balloon and a needle (or a simple paper bag) and shout the infamous "At the snack bar" and people will start running and trampling each other.
 
Kingstonian said:
Las Vegas gunman does not sound like a Muslim.

Terrible carnage.
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Nope, 64 year old white dude and allegedly anti Trump. His FB page was quickly deleted. Still will be the usual lone gun man with mental problems.
How long until the gun control debate is back on every MSM channel?
 
Meanwhile, the unprecedented bombings in Sweden are no cause for alarm as there is a "vast gulf between percentions of rising crime, and actual crimes'' (a bit like the official EU terrorist statistics then) and suck it up as the most offenders are Swedish-born:

http://time.com/4990765/sweden-bombs/



 
Scherensammler said:
What about the shooting in a baptist church in Texas?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...hurch-shooting-south-texas-sutherland-springs
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Mass shootings in USA checklist.

1: Send thoughts and prayers but not actually do anything useful.

2: Argue over semantics of the term "assault rifle".

3: Argue over semantics of the term terrorist: If Muslim, use it. If Christian/white say "lone wolf", or "mentally ill"or "troubled past".

4: Congress does nothing but National Rifle Association increases donations just in case.

5: Wait for the next one, rinse, repeat.
 
fxh said:
Mass shootings in USA checklist.

1: Send thoughts and prayers but not actually do anything useful.

2: Argue over semantics of the term "assault rifle".

3: Argue over semantics of the term terrorist: If Muslim, use it. If Christian/white say "lone wolf", or "mentally ill"or "troubled past".

4: Congress does nothing but National Rifle Association increases donations just in case.

5: Wait for the next one, rinse, repeat.
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6: go out and buy more guns because it’s clear you’re going to need one
 
fxh said:
3: Argue over semantics of the term terrorist: If Muslim, use it. If Christian/white say "lone wolf", or "mentally ill"or "troubled past".
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Not really, this is not about semantics: Terrorism is violence to advance an ideology e.g. political or religious.

Mass killings executed by murderers who snapped because they were insane, or psycho killers (the Dean Corll's, Ted Bundy's and John Wayne Gacy's of this world) because of sexual perversion and gratification in torture and killing, may indeed, inflict terror on a nation, but they are not terrorists.

At this stage, the Las Vegas shooter appears to fall into the category of someone who snapped. So yes, "lone wolf'', ''mentally ill'', and yes, a very ''troubled past'''and upbringing. He might have been Christian, but he was not using the killings to push a Christian agenda. I haven't read enough about the church killings yet, I don't know whether he was motivated by a political or religious ideology and what his motivations where.

The current argument that is being positioned to class all acts of mindless violence perpetuated by insance lone wolf white guys as terrorism, is yet another example of the misuse of perfectly reasonable and established definitions to underplay and dilute the terrorist threat from our Islamist chums.
 
fxh said:
Mass shoot in he checklist.

1: Send thoughts and prayers but not actually do anything useful.

3: Argue over semantics of the term terrorist: If Muslim, use it. If Christian/white say "lone wolf", or "mentally ill"or "troubled past".

5: Wait for the next one, rinse, repeat.
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I see the reverse. Muslims get a pass. Whites get a " see they are the big killers" response.

I have edited out USA specific claims as there seems to be a universal theme in the west. Apart from The Donald who reacts without worrying about diplomatic niceties.
 
Well, in Germany we sometimes have packs of "lone wolves"! Turns out they all knew each other.
Like the guy allegedly responsible for the Christmas market attack in Berlin. Drug dealer and user, still smart enough to plan hijacking a lorry, killing the driver, drive the truck a few hundred kilometres to Berlin, drive through that Christmas market, killing 12 people, making a proper escape but stupidly leaving proof of his real identity behind in the truck and not one of his false 14 ones he had to claim money from social services.
Strangely the names of the alleged victims have never been revealed, but the guy was shot dead in Italy a few days later. How very convenient.
Most of the crimes committed by Muslims are not even reported any more as it makes no sense as the police is so overworked. But if you extend your allowed parking time by one minute you can count on getting a ticket straight away.
Or complain on social media about the overall situation created by uncontrolled mass immigration and you get charged for hate speech and a visit from the local police. But the Muslim Imam who calls for jihad walks free.
Brave new world (order)!
 
Scherensammler said:
Well, in Germany we sometimes have packs of "lone wolves"! Turns out they all knew each other.
Like the guy allegedly responsible for the Christmas market attack in Berlin. Drug dealer and user, still smart enough to plan hijacking a lorry, killing the driver, drive the truck a few hundred kilometres to Berlin, drive through that Christmas market, killing 12 people, making a proper escape but stupidly leaving proof of his real identity behind in the truck and not one of his false 14 ones he had to claim money from social services.
Strangely the names of the alleged victims have never been revealed, but the guy was shot dead in Italy a few days later. How very convenient.
Most of the crimes committed by Muslims are not even reported any more as it makes no sense as the police is so overworked. But if you extend your allowed parking time by one minute you can count on getting a ticket straight away.
Or complain on social media about the overall situation created by uncontrolled mass immigration and you get charged for hate speech and a visit from the local police. But the Muslim Imam who calls for jihad walks free.
Brave new world (order)!
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On the current trajectory it's not going to end well:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5056281/High-Court-rules-child-migrants-NHS-priority.html

This is what Enoch Powell warned about. The creation of special protected classes.

With Islam the liberal and the left have deified it beyond all criticism. If there was a global wave of terrorism and slaughter being committed by Catholics who wanted to bring back the Inquisition, there would be massive pressure on every Catholic church, priest and in the Vatican to get their house in order. But no, we must continue to lie and lie bigly in the case of Islamism. And indeed, we must show that it is beyond criticism and introduce medieval blasphemy laws under the Islamobhobia ticket.

This made me laugh, they don't quite understand what could be driving the massive flight of young professional middle class families from the cities:

https://nltimes.nl/2017/11/07/young-families-moving-away-large-dutch-cities

Everyone knows why, but they insist it must be something to do with renting in the cities. Like London, the middle class is getting out, leaving the very rich and the very poor.
 
Timothy McVeigh: terrorist
Dylan Roof: terrorist
Stephen Paddock: lone wolf/mental problems
Devin Kelley: lone wolf/mental problems

Now how do we classify a nutjob thay screams out “Allah akbar” or “white power!” before shooting a bunch of people (i.e. using the ideology as an excuse rather than really being motivated by it)?
 
InstaHate said:
Timothy McVeigh: terrorist
Dylan Roof: terrorist
Stephen Paddock: lone wolf/mental problems
Devin Kelley: lone wolf/mental problems

Now how do we classify a nutjob thay screams out “Allah akbar” or “white power!” before shooting a bunch of people (i.e. using the ideology as an excuse rather than really being motivated by it)?
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Over here in Europe the "mental issue" is mentioned first, which normally means it wasn't a white person doing it.
If it was a white person the MSM won't stop pointing that out.
However, a (white) nutjob with a gun and familiar problems is not the same as a Muslim nutjob with a gun or a suicide vest who kills people to please his god and the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him).
Either way it doesn't really matter for the victims why they were killed. Or would your last thoughts in a car crash be: "Shit, it's not a (put in luxury car brand here)"
I'd say it's fair to classify any attack with the intent to strike fear into the heart of a particular group of people to further their ideological cause (jihad or white supremacy) as a terror attack.
 
InstaHate said:
Timothy McVeigh: terrorist
Dylan Roof: terrorist
Stephen Paddock: lone wolf/mental problems

Now how do we classify a nutjob thay screams out “Allah akbar” or “white power!” before shooting a bunch of people (i.e. using the ideology as an excuse rather than really being motivated by it)?
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Classification correct, as above.

Screams of ''White power!'' is not killing us in Europe, but organised guttural cries of ''Allahu Akbar!'' are. If it's a genuine person who's flipped in both cases, who has no connections to radical groups, online history, radical mosques or preachers, then it is clearly not terrorism.

If that individual has connections to radical groups, has travelled recently to war zones, has pledged allegiance to a terrorist or political group and belongs to a network of those of similar persuasion, then it is terrorism. Pure and simple.

You will find in Europe, the establishment and MSM are just about shitting themselves to ensure the mental health/lone wolf narrative is rolled out after every Islamist terrorist attack committed by an individual.
 
Scherensammler said:
Over here in Europe the "mental issue" is mentioned first, which normally means it wasn't a white person doing it.
If it was a white person the MSM won't stop pointing that out.
I'd say it's fair to classify any attack with the intent to strike fear into the heart of a particular group of people to further their ideological cause (jihad or white supremacy) as a terror attack.
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Correct.
 
Looks like another attack in New York. Wanker accidentally detonated his device before the intended target.

"Ullah, 27, was wearing a pipe bomb-based device that was affixed to his body with Velcro and zip ties, NYPD deputy commissioner John Miler said. Officials said he was taken to Bellevue Hospital on Manhattan's east side with burns and other wounds.

Earlier, law enforcement officials told NBC News the suspect was the only person hurt and sustained a minor injury.

Three law enforcement officials said that the explosion was believed to be an 'intentional act.' The suspect had some sort of pipe bomb or other type of improvised explosive device that either went off prematurely or only partially detonated, the law enforcement officials said."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...explosion-port-authority-bus-terminal-n828331
 
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"New York bombing suspect Akayed Ullah warned Trump on Facebook"

- uhm...the President only reads Twitter. At least choose the right medium.
 
Twelve die as gunmen hit Coptic Christians

"More than 100 Christians have been killed in Egypt in the past year - most attacks claimed by the local branch of the so-called Islamic State group."

Weren't things supposed to be better under Al Sissi for Christians?
 
Globalisation

An Egyptian stabs a Japanese man to death in Dundalk in the Irish Republic
http://www.thejournal.ie/dundalk-stabbing-3781964-Jan2018/

At one time you would be very surprised to find an Egyptian and a Japanese in Dundalk. Certainly on the same day...

Reminded me when I went to a funeral in Tralee, a rural town, in Kerry in the West. I had to walk past several cars in the taxi rank until I found one with an Irish driver.
 
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/wor...market-hostage-taking-in-trebes-france-mayor/

"More than 240 people have been killed in France in attacks since 2015 by assailants who pledged allegiance to Islamic State or were inspired by the group."

That's almost one person dying every three days.

"'The perpetrator entered the store shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ and indicated that he was an Islamic State soldier who was ready to die for Syria, seeking the release of brothers, before shooting at a client and a store employee who died on the spot,' Molins said."

....but the guy is Moroccan.

"'I was in my department when I heard gunshots. I went to the area of the gunshots and came face to face with the person,' said the employee, who gave his name only as Francois. 'He raised his gun and fired, I ran away, he shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ and spoke about the Islamic State. I then evacuated the clients, about 20, who were in my area and we went quietly out of the back,' said Francois, who has been employed at the supermarket since November."
 
Fwiffo said:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/wor...market-hostage-taking-in-trebes-france-mayor/

"More than 240 people have been killed in France in attacks since 2015 by assailants who pledged allegiance to Islamic State or were inspired by the group."

That's almost one person dying every three days.

"'The perpetrator entered the store shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ and indicated that he was an Islamic State soldier who was ready to die for Syria, seeking the release of brothers, before shooting at a client and a store employee who died on the spot,' Molins said."

....but the guy is Moroccan.

"'I was in my department when I heard gunshots. I went to the area of the gunshots and came face to face with the person,' said the employee, who gave his name only as Francois. 'He raised his gun and fired, I ran away, he shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ and spoke about the Islamic State. I then evacuated the clients, about 20, who were in my area and we went quietly out of the back,' said Francois, who has been employed at the supermarket since November."
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the cop that gave his life for the hostage died.
 
Rambo said:
the cop that gave his life for the hostage died.
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In typical display of BBC impartiality, they described the policeman as a ' ''hero'' ' as if that was up for debate. They couldn't quite bring themselves to acknowledge his heroism and sacrifice they had to put it in a quote to distance themselves from that position. Another good reason to protect your kids from the lies and propaganda of the MSM and particularly the filth of the BBC.

Meanwhile, looks like the Jewish community and at least Chuka in the Labour party are moving against Corbyn's mob. Hopefully this will be the decisive moment that the Labour moderates grow some balls, but don't hold your breath. At this stage, we should class elements within the Labour Party as domestic terrorists.
 
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There are lies, damned lies and there are statistics.

But I was serious about the disproportionate amount of ISIS attacks in France relative to the population and its minorities and immigrants.
 
Pimpernel Smith said:
Hopefully this will be the decisive moment that the Labour moderates grow some balls, but don't hold your breath. At this stage, we should class elements within the Labour Party as domestic terrorists.
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Meaning? Labour, along with European Socialists contains no moderates. They're all radicals obsessed with identity politics, after they abandoned the working man in the 1960s. British Labour was probably the one that held out longest (all thanks to Thatcher).
 
What about the working woman? Who will stand up for her?
 
Margaret River murder-suicide: Seven people found dead at home near WA holiday town Updated Fri at 10:30pm
Four children and three adults have been shot dead in a home near the West Australian town of Margaret River, in what is the nation's worst mass shooting since the 1996 Port Arthur massacre.

Key points:
  • Police were tipped-off by a man connected to the property
  • Two adults were found outside the home, five bodies inside it, including four children
  • It is the worst mass shooting in Australia since Port Arthur in 1996
Police are treating the incident as a murder-suicide and have confirmed they are not looking for any suspects.

A friend of the family has confirmed to the ABC that Katrina Miles and her four children were among the seven victims.

The friend confirmed that Katrina's parents, whose names are listed on the property title as Peter and Cynda Miles, were also killed in the incident.
 
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