Trouble in Palestine and Israel

Grand Potentate said:
newlinesmag.com

Doctors Describe the Horror of Israel’s Pager Attack in Lebanon

Surgeons and others detail gruesome injuries; many of the thousands of victims were blinded, with fingers severed
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Most of those who were injured were men …
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The pagers weren’t sold at the local Walmart. They were purchased in bulk and issued to Hezbollah leadership - an Iranian-funded religious extremist terrorist group based upon the suppression of women’s rights. Talk about a laser-precision strike to damage the bad guys! No way you could get that success rate and low collateral damage rate with special forces or bombing.
 
Dropbear said:
The pagers weren’t sold at the local Walmart. They were purchased in bulk and issued to Hezbollah leadership - an Iranian-funded religious extremist terrorist group based upon the suppression of women’s rights. Talk about a laser-precision strike to damage the bad guys! No way you could get that success rate and low collateral damage rate with special forces or bombing.
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Literally none of this is true.

Lets presume you are correct just for a second. Thousands of innocent men, women, and children were maimed or killed in this attack. How can this not be considered terrorism in any justifiable sense?
 
Grand Potentate said:
Literally none of this is true.

Lets presume you are correct just for a second. Thousands of innocent men, women, and children were maimed or killed in this attack. How can this not be considered terrorism in any justifiable sense?
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Do you consider Hezbollah leaders innocent?

I read some anecdotal stories of civilians injured and killed (one Hezbollah captain asked his daughter to turn off his beeper, for example). But for now we have no idea how many civilians were injured since a) Hezbollah won’t publish a full list of their casualties and b) Lebanese health officials don’t distinguish between Hezbollah and innocent injured.
 
Grand Potentate said:
Innocent of what? Self-defense? Sovereignty? This is such a ridiculous framing for what is going on at the moment. Do you consider the Israeli leaders innocent?
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You were the one who introduced the term ‘innocent’, so I’m trying to gauge what you mean by that. Maybe we should say non-combatants? Civilians? Neither of which would include Hezbollah. (Or the IDF and Israeli leadership).
 
Dropbear said:
You were the one who introduced the term ‘innocent’, so I’m trying to gauge what you mean by that. Maybe we should say non-combatants? Civilians? Neither of which would include Hezbollah. (Or the IDF and Israeli leadership).
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Oh you were referring to the non-hezbollah related men who were injured. Yes I consider them innocent.
 
www.bbc.com

Israeli attack on northern Gaza hints at retired general's "surrender or starve" plan for war

Giora Eiland tells Jeremy Bowen that Israel should tell Palestinians to leave northern Gaza before sealing it off as a way of pressuring Hamas.
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“Since we already encircled the northern part of Gaza in the past nine or 10 months, what we should do is the following thing to tell all the 300,000 residents [that the UN estimates is 400,000] who still live in the northern part of Gaza that they have to leave this area and they should be given 10 days to leave through safe corridors that Israel will provide.

"And after that time, all this area will become to be a military zone. And all the Hamas people will still, though, whether some of them are fighters, some of them are civilians… will have two choices either to surrender or to starve"

Don't forget to load up on artillery ammunition so you can do it like Russia did in Syria.
 
It's funny how god has started punishing the IDF soldiers with PTSD way before the ICJ getting a hold of them.
 


Israel bombed a vaccination site. Must have been Hamas parents bringing their Hamas children to get those Hamas branded polio vaccines.
 
Grand Potentate said:
Mao was a great man. Had some wonderful ideas about what to do with landlords…
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He certainly would not object to children being slaughtered though. In fact he might well approve it, as it strenghtens the resolve of the people.
 
www.nbcnews.com

Qatar ends mediation efforts between Israel and Hamas, citing lack of good-faith negotiations

Israel and Hamas had been told that “as long as there is a refusal to negotiate a deal in good faith, they cannot continue to mediate. As a consequence, the Hamas political office no longer serves its purpose,” a diplomatic source said.
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“The diplomat noted that Qatar may resume its role if both sides reach an impasse and show genuine intent to negotiate.”

Okay…..

“The official said the U.S. is still trying to secure the release of hostages — and that the administration believes that expelling Hamas from Doha will place more pressure on the organization.”

Repeatedly killing the political and military heads isn’t exactly a motivator. Not sure how this will be one either.
 
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Saudi crown prince says Israel committing 'genocide' in Gaza

Mohamed Bin Salman was speaking at the opening of a summit of Muslim and Arab leaders in Riyadh.
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When you get criticized by MBS for being genocidal..

Captain America Lol GIF by mtv
 
news.sky.com

Mass displacement in Gaza with people unsure where to go

Rescue workers and medics say they are being denied access to northern Gaza. Stray dogs and cats eat abandoned bodies in the streets. Much of Gaza is now lawless.
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"In October a spokesman for COGAT, the Israeli civilian-military border authority that co-ordinates humanitarian supplies, said that aid deliveries were not needed in the northern towns because there was 'no population' left."

Humanitarian supplies are for humans....innocent civilians. I don't see any. Therefore no aid is required.
 
www.theglobeandmail.com

New York police say they arrested 21 people at the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade

Police say they made the arrests after protesters jumped barricades and sat down on the parade route with Palestinian flags and a ‘Don’t Celebrate Genocide’ banner
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"New York City police said they arrested 21 people after protesters jumped barricades and sat down on the parade route with Palestinian flags and a 'Don’t Celebrate Genocide' banner. They chanted 'Free, free Palestine!' as a giant Ronald McDonald balloon bore down on them on Manhattan’s Sixth Avenue."

Buggers are everywhere.
 
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IDF refusers: The men who volunteered but now won't fight in Gaza

Why men who reported for duty after October 7 are now refusing to fight
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“Yuval is the co-organiser of a public letter signed by more than 165 - at the latest count - Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) reservists, and a smaller number of permanent soldiers, refusing to serve, or threatening to refuse, unless the hostages are returned - something that would require a ceasefire deal with Hamas.

In a country still traumatised by the worst violence in its history, those refusing for reasons of conscience are a minority in a military that includes around 465,000 reservists.

There is another factor in play for some other IDF reservists: exhaustion.

According to Israeli media reports, a growing number are failing to report for duty. The Times of Israel newspaper and several other outlets quoted military sources as saying that there was a drop of between 15% to 25% of troops showing up, mainly due to burnout with the long periods of service required of them.”

Do what the Ukrainians and Russians do. Foreign fighters.
 
www.amnesty.org

Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territory: ‘You Feel Like You Are Subhuman’: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza - Amnesty International

This report documents Israel’s actions during its offensive on the occupied Gaza Strip from 7 October 2023. It examines the killing of civilians, damage to and destruction of civilian infrastructure, forcible displacement, the obstruction or denial of life-saving goods and humanitarian aid, and...
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look Fwiffo Fwiffo Dropbear Dropbear belinmad belinmad even Amnesty International is on board with genocide. Maybe Hamas has infiltrated their ranks?
 
Grand Potentate said:
www.amnesty.org

Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territory: ‘You Feel Like You Are Subhuman’: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza - Amnesty International

This report documents Israel’s actions during its offensive on the occupied Gaza Strip from 7 October 2023. It examines the killing of civilians, damage to and destruction of civilian infrastructure, forcible displacement, the obstruction or denial of life-saving goods and humanitarian aid, and...
www.amnesty.org www.amnesty.org

look Fwiffo Fwiffo Dropbear Dropbear belinmad belinmad even Amnesty International is on board with genocide. Maybe Hamas has infiltrated their ranks?
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Whilst I never admired Amnesty, they were the ones who called out Ukraine for committing war crimes. They were subsequently snuffed out by the then press and social media popular darling Zelensky. I haven't heard from Amnesty on that matter since.

When you cry wolf so many times people tune out. This is unfortunately the road the UN and WHO have gone down too.
 
Fwiffo said:
Whilst I never admired Amnesty, they were the ones who called out Ukraine for committing war crimes. They were subsequently snuffed out by the then press and social media popular darling Zelensky. I haven't heard from Amnesty on that matter since.

When you cry wolf so many times people tune out. This is unfortunately the road the UN and WHO have gone down too.
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yes that's definitely it. they're over-exaggerating.
 
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