Trouble in Palestine and Israel

[Dropbear]

Doctors Describe the Horror of Israel’s Pager Attack in Lebanon

Surgeons and others detail gruesome injuries; many of the thousands of victims were blinded, with fingers severed

newlinesmag.com

Most of those who were injured were men …

The pagers weren’t sold at the local Walmart. They were purchased in bulk and issued to Hezbollah leadership - an Iranian-funded religious extremist terrorist group based upon the suppression of women’s rights. Talk about a laser-precision strike to damage the bad guys! No way you could get that success rate and low collateral damage rate with special forces or bombing.

 

[Grand Potentate]

The pagers weren’t sold at the local Walmart. They were purchased in bulk and issued to Hezbollah leadership - an Iranian-funded religious extremist terrorist group based upon the suppression of women’s rights. Talk about a laser-precision strike to damage the bad guys! No way you could get that success rate and low collateral damage rate with special forces or bombing.

Literally none of this is true.

Lets presume you are correct just for a second. Thousands of innocent men, women, and children were maimed or killed in this attack. How can this not be considered terrorism in any justifiable sense?

 

[Dropbear]

Literally none of this is true.

Lets presume you are correct just for a second. Thousands of innocent men, women, and children were maimed or killed in this attack. How can this not be considered terrorism in any justifiable sense?

Do you consider Hezbollah leaders innocent?

I read some anecdotal stories of civilians injured and killed (one Hezbollah captain asked his daughter to turn off his beeper, for example). But for now we have no idea how many civilians were injured since a) Hezbollah won’t publish a full list of their casualties and b) Lebanese health officials don’t distinguish between Hezbollah and innocent injured.

 

[Grand Potentate]

Do you consider Hezbollah leaders innocent?

Innocent of what? Self-defense? Sovereignty? This is such a ridiculous framing for what is going on at the moment. Do you consider the Israeli leaders innocent?

 

[Dropbear]

Innocent of what? Self-defense? Sovereignty? This is such a ridiculous framing for what is going on at the moment. Do you consider the Israeli leaders innocent?

You were the one who introduced the term ‘innocent’, so I’m trying to gauge what you mean by that. Maybe we should say non-combatants? Civilians? Neither of which would include Hezbollah. (Or the IDF and Israeli leadership).

 

[Grand Potentate]

You were the one who introduced the term ‘innocent’, so I’m trying to gauge what you mean by that. Maybe we should say non-combatants? Civilians? Neither of which would include Hezbollah. (Or the IDF and Israeli leadership).

Oh you were referring to the non-hezbollah related men who were injured. Yes I consider them innocent.